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There is an extension under development for this. I use. But I think group variables should come in phpBB's core by default.

This has several benefits: First, more options can be offered in the ACP for managing the clipboard; the latter provides convenience to extension and style developers; three, it gives more opportunities to those who make customizations like me.

I mentioned the extension under development. Does it work? Yes. But in the post of the message author, nothing is shown in that author's field (such as rank) according to the group that the author belongs to. Like.

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halil16 wrote: Tue Jan 24, 2023 2:02 am There is an extension under development for this. I use. But I think group variables should come in phpBB's core by default.
Which extension under development are you referring to?
Also: are you referring to template variables (html) or PHP code?
halil16 wrote: Tue Jan 24, 2023 2:02 am This has several benefits: First, more options can be offered in the ACP for managing the clipboard; the latter provides convenience to extension and style developers; three, it gives more opportunities to those who make customizations like me.
What is the clipboard?
halil16 wrote: Tue Jan 24, 2023 2:02 am I mentioned the extension under development. Does it work? Yes. But in the post of the message author, nothing is shown in that author's field (such as rank) according to the group that the author belongs to.
Rank can be assigned based on group membership and is in many cases linked to the default group the user is member of but there are also special ranks.
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halil16 wrote: Tue Jan 24, 2023 2:02 amI mentioned the extension under development. Does it work?
Thats not a discussion for ideas, you should ask the author.
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warmweer wrote: Tue Jan 24, 2023 6:22 am Which extension under development are you referring to?
Also: are you referring to template variables (html) or PHP code?
Yes, PHP.
warmweer wrote: Tue Jan 24, 2023 6:22 am What is the clipboard?
Sorry, my foult. "bulletin board" "board" "forum"
warmweer wrote: Tue Jan 24, 2023 6:22 am Rank can be assigned based on group membership and is in many cases linked to the default group the user is member of but there are also special ranks.
I'm talking about being easy to use in coding.
Mick wrote: Tue Jan 24, 2023 11:49 am Thats not a discussion for ideas, you should ask the author.
Sorry, maybe I shouldn't have mentioned him. But there doesn't seem to be much interest: [3.3][RC] Group Template Variables.
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halil16 wrote: Tue Jan 24, 2023 12:08 pm ...
Sorry, maybe I shouldn't have mentioned him. But there doesn't seem to be much interest: [3.3][RC] Group Template Variables.
It's what I thought.
What is it that you need that the extension doesn't provide?
I've used the feature (MOD and extension) since phpBB 3.0.x (one of the most useful extensions IMHO)
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As I see it.. there is no need for it in the core.
I don't see any benefit for extension developers + same goes to style developers (specially, if template files would be converted into twig syntax.
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warmweer wrote: Tue Jan 24, 2023 12:46 pm What is it that you need that the extension doesn't provide?
I guess it was not being able to run it as a postrow. I also use; I made the adjustments once and forgot; works as intended. Only with postrow if that user belongs to a group I would show something on his post. It wasn't very necessary but it would have been nice.
GanstaZ wrote: Wed Jan 25, 2023 12:59 pm As I see it.. there is no need for it in the core.
I just thought it might be beautiful.

For example, if an extension writer were to use it, he would not have to rewrite it, he would build on a feature in the core.
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halil16 wrote: Wed Jan 25, 2023 3:07 pm I guess it was not being able to run it as a postrow. I also use; I made the adjustments once and forgot; works as intended. Only with postrow if that user belongs to a group I would show something on his post. It wasn't very necessary but it would have been nice.
You can use the Group Variables conditions in just about all templates so I suggest posing the explicit question(s) in the Extension topic.
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warmweer wrote: Wed Jan 25, 2023 4:26 pm
I already asked. But it looks like the extension development has been discontinued.

On the other hand, I just offered such an idea because I thought it might be useful. I understand the reasons given here.
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The extension will not be really hard to update even if the author decides to abandon it. Don’t worry.
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halil16 wrote: Wed Jan 25, 2023 3:07 pm if an extension writer were to use it
Why would extension developer/s use it? If we ever see new style, then everything would have to be rebuilt anyway.
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