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by MichaelWagner
Sat Oct 06, 2007 2:21 pm
Forum: phpBB Discussion
Topic: Is there a way to Disabled the BCC function in PMs?
Replies: 5
Views: 423

Re: Is there a way to Disable the BCC function in PMs?

I suppose you could fiddle the template and take away the place where bccs are specified, so no one would be able to specify it. But your users would win the battle and lose the war. Anyone can cut and paste the message into another and send it further afield, unbeknownst to the first recipients. An...
by MichaelWagner
Sat Oct 06, 2007 2:14 pm
Forum: phpBB Discussion
Topic: Reading other users PMs (as Admin)
Replies: 114
Views: 20889

Re: Reading other users PMs (as Admin)

There are a thousand things out there that are Private but not encrypted. Since we're into phone analogies, cordless phones. Since they're not encrypted (at least the old ones weren't), anyone with a similar phone parked outside your house and down the street could pick up your conversations, inclu...
by MichaelWagner
Sat Oct 06, 2007 2:09 pm
Forum: phpBB Discussion
Topic: Reading other users PMs (as Admin)
Replies: 114
Views: 20889

Re: Reading other users PMs (as Admin)

This is utterly incorrect. PBX is private but it is not encrypted. There are a thousand things out there that are Private but not encrypted. Privacy is not defined by encryption. I think we're at the crux of the irrelevant part. What do you think Privacy means? If the PBX operator can listen in, I ...
by MichaelWagner
Sat Oct 06, 2007 2:03 pm
Forum: phpBB Discussion
Topic: Reading other users PMs (as Admin)
Replies: 114
Views: 20889

Re: Reading other users PMs (as Admin)

OK. Then let's be more simple. You think it's private if only admins can read it. My users don't think that's the definition of privacy. They think even admins shouldn't be able to read it if it's called private. I want to avoid the debate by removing the name private.
by MichaelWagner
Sat Oct 06, 2007 1:32 pm
Forum: phpBB Discussion
Topic: Reading other users PMs (as Admin)
Replies: 114
Views: 20889

Re: Reading other users PMs (as Admin)

I get it that various support team members don't get it. So let me make it easy. There is a concept, in English common law (which is the basis for much common law in many western democracies) of the "common man". The common man can be assumed to understand the language and use a dictionary, but he i...
by MichaelWagner
Sat Oct 06, 2007 1:14 pm
Forum: phpBB Discussion
Topic: Reading other users PMs (as Admin)
Replies: 114
Views: 20889

Re: Reading other users PMs (as Admin)

It's trivial to read the database with phpmyadmin or sqlyog or something, so no actual privacy is created by omiting a tool that's easy to supplant.
by MichaelWagner
Sat Oct 06, 2007 3:42 am
Forum: phpBB Discussion
Topic: Reading other users PMs (as Admin)
Replies: 114
Views: 20889

Re: Reading other users PMs (as Admin)

Marshalrusty: the name of the feature is all tied up in the same issue, because it's the name ("Private Message System") that enables the "reasonable man" (a fiction used to discuss legal issues) to assume privacy, a feature that is not actually implemented. To my mind, they are 2 parts of the same ...
by MichaelWagner
Sat Oct 06, 2007 1:03 am
Forum: phpBB Discussion
Topic: Reading other users PMs (as Admin)
Replies: 114
Views: 20889

Re: Reading other users PMs (as Admin)

And for the record, I always thought the topic was about admins reading PMs. In fact, I'm sure everyone thinks that's what it's about. After all, that's the title. And that's the issue.
by MichaelWagner
Sat Oct 06, 2007 12:48 am
Forum: phpBB Discussion
Topic: Reading other users PMs (as Admin)
Replies: 114
Views: 20889

Re: Reading other users PMs (as Admin)

We do seem to want to flog the dead horse without ever really facing the point head on, don't we? It was the privacy from the admins that was the issue (at least on my board). We went in to investigate a problem and found that the PMs were in fact discussing one of the admins (in less than flatterin...
by MichaelWagner
Fri Oct 05, 2007 2:52 pm
Forum: phpBB Discussion
Topic: Reading other users PMs (as Admin)
Replies: 114
Views: 20889

Re: Reading other users PMs (as Admin)

Now, to the other issue. Everyone seems to assume here that privacy is the expectation in PMs, and admins who don't honour that expectation are somehow bad or wrong, and have violated their users trust and maybe the law. We thought about this for quite a while when I joined the admin team for my hig...
by MichaelWagner
Fri Oct 05, 2007 2:37 pm
Forum: phpBB Discussion
Topic: Reading other users PMs (as Admin)
Replies: 114
Views: 20889

Re: Reading other users PMs (as Admin)

And in order to bring this discussion to some kind of at least partial resolution, let me summarize. Many people believe (and the legal opinion on british common law tends to support this view) that, by naming the PM facility the Private Message facility, and showing that name to our users, we build...
by MichaelWagner
Fri Oct 05, 2007 3:20 am
Forum: phpBB Discussion
Topic: Is there a way to Disabled the BCC function in PMs?
Replies: 5
Views: 423

Re: Is there a way to Disabled the BCC function in PMs?

I've had some users express concern about the ability of OTHERS to BCC PMs that are being sent. Might I enquire why? This seems to be a technical solution to a non-problem (or at least an essentially unfixable problem). If I want to blind carbon copy someone (A sends a PM to B, with a blind CC to C...
by MichaelWagner
Fri Oct 05, 2007 3:11 am
Forum: phpBB Discussion
Topic: Reading other users PMs (as Admin)
Replies: 114
Views: 20889

Re: Reading other users PMs (as Admin)

I think we're missing some major points here. I and 2 others run a small high school reunion web site (we're all long past high school, and are scattered all over the world, and we communicate this way). We do advertise (perhaps not well enough, but we do) that the PM system is not private. The priv...
by MichaelWagner
Tue Jul 31, 2007 12:29 pm
Forum: 2.0.x Support Forum
Topic: Banning search engines
Replies: 11
Views: 167

Re: Banning search engines

stevemaury wrote:You should start your own topic instead of hijacking this one
Sorry, it wasn't an attempt to hijack. We're always told to search first, and I did, and this is the only thread that came up that was on point. Thanks for the pointers.
by MichaelWagner
Tue Jul 31, 2007 1:19 am
Forum: 2.0.x Support Forum
Topic: Banning search engines
Replies: 11
Views: 167

Re: Banning search engines

Acorn wrote:registration is by invitation only
How do you do registration by invitation only? I've not run across an option for that, and I'd really really like that for one forum I read.

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