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Should a users post count be decremented, if yes, how?

Poll ended at Wed Nov 21, 2001 12:12 am

Only decrease if user deletes their own post/s
3
8%
Only decrease if user or mod (or admin) deletes a post
15
42%
Decrease in all cases (inc. pruning of forums)
18
50%
 
Total votes: 36

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Post by psoTFX » Sat Nov 17, 2001 12:12 am

This has been raised a fair bit lately both here and via bug reports ... so I'd personally like some user feedback for a 'make my mind up' decision which I can then discuss with the other devs.

Should the user post count be decremented when a user deletes their post? How about when an admin prunes a forum? Make your voice heard ... shout, louder (I'm a bit deaf ... pardon? what did you say? speak up!).
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Post by Thunder » Sat Nov 17, 2001 12:15 am

As i reported this when i wrote my little conversion script I also noted that the total% is wrong if a post is not in the DB any more... so you have to consider this as well :)
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Post by dougk_ff7 » Sat Nov 17, 2001 12:27 am

I wouldn't like it if users inflated thier post count by posting hundreds of topics, and then deleting them. It should be deincremented regardless of whether it is the board deleting them (prune), an admin/mod, or the user.
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Post by Thunder » Sat Nov 17, 2001 12:31 am

dougk_ff7 wrote: I wouldn't like it if users inflated thier post count by posting hundreds of topics, and then deleting them. It should be deincremented regardless of whether it is the board deleting them (prune), an admin/mod, or the user.

but consider that the ranks depend on the posting counts and so the user would punch you if you prune the forums (automatically) and they loose two stars eg...
(mine would do that *gg*)
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Post by helicine » Sat Nov 17, 2001 1:35 am

I prefer having the "real" count. I'd be nice to be able to set it to what you would prefer, but I have little intention of deleting old posts in my forums, but things *do* get deleted, and if they are deleted, I like to have the post count change, especially when you get bored kids late at night posting to boost their rank :-)

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Post by SamG » Sat Nov 17, 2001 1:38 am

@Thunder - I think that's unlikely to affect long-time posters. In other words, if a member is a long time phpBB Junkie at 600 posts or something and the threshold for Junkie is 100 post (for example), what are the odds an admin will prune away 500+ of this member's posts?

I'm not explaining this very well, but it just seems like a long term member is not going to lose a gold star after a while. So since everybody has to fight their way up the ranks the same way, it's just another aspect of the ranking system. Once you've cleared the last frontier by a significant amount, you're home free.

Does that make any sense?

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Post by gameofhit » Sat Nov 17, 2001 3:28 am

I think that it should decrease the post count only for posts that get deleted. If the user or the mod does this, it's just as significant, because the post is gone.
SamG wrote: Once you've cleared the last frontier by a significant amount, you're home free.

Yeah, but what if you throw an Easter Egg style rank in there for people with a ridiculous amount of posts? (Like I will ;) ) Then if their posts get pruned away, they suffer.

I think pruned posts should still count, because there was still a valid post there, even if it is gone now. And I know I would be pissed if I signed on one day and my post count was tiny.

I do think that Post count should be something that an admin can edit in a user profile, although that might be a future feature. :p

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Post by dougk_ff7 » Sat Nov 17, 2001 4:19 am

Manual pruning might not be included, I guess.... Just like auto-prune. Or maybe disable the deduction from auto prune. I don't know, that's why we need your help! :lol:
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Post by GrimmReeper » Sat Nov 17, 2001 6:49 am

Pruning a forum should definatly NOT decrease post count. People use post count for ranking on forums. But I guess if it came down to it you could just not prune ^_^

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Post by devoutus » Sat Nov 17, 2001 7:17 am

i think you have to prune if you have sight for 2 year do can you really spare the space for to years worth of posts. but i don't think that you post count should go down for pruning but defanly for mod and user delted post.

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Post by black_prince » Sat Nov 17, 2001 8:04 am

my two penneth is yes to deduction of admin/moderator deletions and no to deducting posts after pruning

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Post by Thunder » Sat Nov 17, 2001 10:07 am

SamG wrote: @Thunder - I think that's unlikely to affect long-time posters. In other words, if a member is a long time phpBB Junkie at 600 posts or something and the threshold for Junkie is 100 post (for example), what are the odds an admin will prune away 500+ of this member's posts?

For me a Junkie won't start at 100 posts... it will start at probably 500 posts otherwise he is no junkie *g*
SamG wrote: I'm not explaining this very well, but it just seems like a long term member is not going to lose a gold star after a while. So since everybody has to fight their way up the ranks the same way, it's just another aspect of the ranking system. Once you've cleared the last frontier by a significant amount, you're home free.
Does that make any sense?

if he can't post a month and posts get pruned... he might get a newbie again...
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Post by hsim » Sat Nov 17, 2001 1:08 pm

It should be optional to decrease post counts on every kind of prune so your users won't lose posts for reasons like keeping the db size small.
However, I would like this
Total posts: ####
[##% of total / ##.## posts per day]

thingy in the profiles page to use the N° of still existing posts to calculate % of total.
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Why not let the forum admin decide?

Post by motherbrain » Sat Nov 17, 2001 2:19 pm

It seems to me that the poll is already some form of pseudo-code that could easily be translated in a switch..case statement so that the forum admin can decide for him/herself.
Doing so would make everybody happy and you won't have to 'make up your mind' :lol:

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Post by zoid » Sat Nov 17, 2001 2:34 pm

What about
  • Postings since joined
  • Postings currently in the database
Ranks would be based on the first postings counter.

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