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Re: Preventing SPAM - Bots and Humans [*Read the First Post!*]

Post by momentum » Fri May 30, 2008 12:30 pm

In your browser, navigate your way to http://<your_site>/forum/toolkit.php

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Post by RMcGirr83 » Fri May 30, 2008 12:48 pm

It means to access the file by browsing to it, eg.

http://yourwebsite.com/forum/toolkit.php

and do it pretty quickly cuz the file is there and is asking for initial password for admin and moderator.
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Post by Lonewolf1888 » Fri May 30, 2008 1:21 pm

THANKYOU guys! got it done and working great...its been really getting me down so thanks very much!

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Post by karlkablisk » Mon Jun 02, 2008 7:59 pm

A bot just got through my security. I put in the RAC mod. and Its stopped bots from registering and posting so thats good. But today I saw a bot post spam on my board. He either HAD an account that I deleted or didn't make one, but he still posted 6 times! Whats more, I COULDN'T delete his posts! The best I could do was edit his text. But even now if I try to delete, it says it deleted but it stays there. :(

I dont know what the bot did. Its not a user so I can't do much to him other than remove the message. Even if I ban its IP it'll just use another one.

Heres a link to the page. as you can see his name is faded out so its not a registered user.

http://www.kabliskkeep.com/forum/index. ... ef969fe20a

Can anyone help?
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Post by ric323 » Mon Jun 02, 2008 10:11 pm

karlkablisk wrote: Heres a link to the page. as you can see his name is faded out so its not a registered user.

http://www.kabliskkeep.com/forum/index. ... ef969fe20a

Can anyone help?
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Post by ChrisRLG » Mon Jun 02, 2008 10:55 pm

karlkablisk wrote:Heres a link to the page. as you can see his name is faded out so its not a registered user.

http://www.kabliskkeep.com/forum/index.php?sid=02285c66455a7e033b95cbef969fe20a
Also another point.

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http://www.kabliskkeep.com/forum/index.php?sid=02285c66455a7e033b95cbef969fe20a

Although the later versions are not expected to be vulnerable to it, those SID's can be used by hackers to gain access with admin privilages, particularly if used while you are still using that same session.

So ALWAYS remove SID's from links when you post.
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Post by grzejniki_lazienkowe » Wed Jun 04, 2008 6:58 am

Hello,

We are the Terma Technologie company and we are a leading manufacturer of tubular radiators ([removed] ).

We are looking for good script preventing our mailbox from a spam. What are You thing ? Which one will be the best ?
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Post by RMcGirr83 » Wed Jun 04, 2008 10:53 am

I personally prefer the security question mod, mostly because you can change the question and answer in the ACP.

Personal preference though.
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Best way to keep'em from finding us in the first place?

Post by 150mph » Thu Jun 12, 2008 4:01 am

In addition to stopping the spammers from registering, I want to stop them from finding my board to start with, and was interested in Alvo's post about bots finding our phpbb tag line's and memberlist.php files. I haven't seen any further discussion about this, and wonder if this is the consensus - that spambots find our forums by these two elements.

Anyway, I want to do what Alvo mentioned, change the tagline with comments:

Po<!--engt-->we<!--dkjhy-->red b<!--wodnted-->y ph<!--khiuyu7-->pB<!--zpfleg-->B)

but i don't know which file to find it in.... :roll:

And if I change memberlist.php to m3mb3rl13t.php or something, do I need to change a bunch of other files too?

Most importantly, (i edited this post to add this) I want to leave the board viewable to the public without registering.

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Re: Best way to keep'em from finding us in the first place?

Post by Lumpy Burgertushie » Thu Jun 12, 2008 10:13 pm

150mph wrote:In addition to stopping the spammers from registering, I want to stop them from finding my board to start with, and was interested in Alvo's post about bots finding our phpbb tag line's and memberlist.php files. I haven't seen any further discussion about this, and wonder if this is the consensus - that spambots find our forums by these two elements.

Anyway, I want to do what Alvo mentioned, change the tagline with comments:

Po<!--engt-->we<!--dkjhy-->red b<!--wodnted-->y ph<!--khiuyu7-->pB<!--zpfleg-->B)

but i don't know which file to find it in.... :roll:

And if I change memberlist.php to m3mb3rl13t.php or something, do I need to change a bunch of other files too?

Most importantly, (i edited this post to add this) I want to leave the board viewable to the public without registering.
first, none of that will help at all.
the bots do not look for memberlist.php at all. they are inputting the data string straight to the database.

if you do like has been said over and over, install the RAC MOD, this stops them dead in their tracks.
they can not register, therefore, they go away.

If you allow guest posting, you will NEVER stop the spammers. bots or humans.
PERIOD!

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Re: Best way to keep'em from finding us in the first place?

Post by RMcGirr83 » Thu Jun 12, 2008 10:43 pm

Lumpy Burgertushie wrote:
If you allow guest posting, you will NEVER stop the spammers. bots or humans.
PERIOD!
Not without a mod, you won't ;)
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Re: Preventing SPAM - Bots and Humans [*Read the First Post!*]

Post by 150mph » Fri Jun 13, 2008 12:50 am

†hanks for input. To clarify, I didnt say I wanted to allow guest posting, just viewing.

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Post by Lumpy Burgertushie » Fri Jun 13, 2008 1:14 am

150mph wrote:†hanks for input. To clarify, I didnt say I wanted to allow guest posting, just viewing.
ah, sorry, my mistake.

guest viewing is no problem at all. you simply set "view" to "public" in your forum permissions for each forum that you wish.

that will have no affect on spammers, or bots registering, posting etc.

the two have nothing to do with each other.

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the hide memberlist mod

Post by meyerII » Fri Jun 13, 2008 4:45 am

I wanted to get the mod for hiding the memberlist for guests, and your first post refers me here:

Download: viewtopic.php?t=213812

(http://www.phpbb.com/community/viewtopic.php?t=213812)


Unfortunately, I don't have authority to view that forum. I'm pretty sure I can find it by searching this site, but I thought I'd mention it in case this is something you didn't intend to do.

BTW: I am helping out a large aircooled VW-related site with some anti-spam mods and was impressed that I found EXACTLY what I was looking for in the first place I looked (wel...almost). Good work.

 

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Post by Lumpy Burgertushie » Fri Jun 13, 2008 5:56 am

not sure what MOD that was, but the MOD database has been cleaned out of all old, out of date MODs and that is the error you get when trying to access them.

removing the memberlist from view will have absolutely no affect on spammers, bots or otherwise.

however, this is how to do it:

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########################################################################

#
#This restricts the memberlist to members only.
#-----[ OPEN ]------------------------------------------
#

memberlist.php

#
#-----[ FIND ]------------------------------------------
#
 
//
// End session management
//

#
#-----[ AFTER, ADD ]------------------------------------
# 

// Begin 'Restrict Access' 
if ( !$userdata['session_logged_in'] )
	{
		redirect(append_sid("login.".$phpEx."?redirect=memberlist.".$phpEx, true));
		exit;
	}
// End 'Restrict Access' 

############################################################################################

#
#This restricts memberlist to admin only
#-----[ OPEN ]------------------------------------------
#

memberlist.php

#
#-----[ FIND ]------------------------------------------
#
 
//
// End session management
//

#
#-----[ AFTER, ADD ]------------------------------------
# 


// Begin 'Restrict Access' 
if( !$userdata['user_level'] == 1 )
{
message_die(GENERAL_MESSAGE, $lang['Not_Authorised']);
}
	
// End 'Restrict Access' 
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