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Re: [DEV]Mass Moderation in phpBB (rate post & topic, usr ka

Post by martec » Thu Jul 14, 2011 6:45 pm

Iceman85 wrote:Do you want to be able to show/hide the post rating select? Ok!!!! I mark this suggestion for the next version! :D :D
sorry my bad english... but i don't want hide post rating slect.
i want add more option in post rating select.
Your mod have in post rating select informative, interesting, funny, off-topic, flamebait, spam, etc options...
I want add more one option "spoiler"...
Possible?

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Re: [DEV]Mass Moderation in phpBB (rate post & topic, usr ka

Post by Iceman85 » Thu Jul 14, 2011 7:09 pm

Don't you worry for you english! Mine is worse than your! But I still don't undestand! :cry: :cry: Sorry!!!!! Do you want a post adjective called "spoiler"? Or do you want to be able to add custom post adjectives? Thanks for you interesting!!!! :) :) :)
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Re: [DEV]Mass Moderation in phpBB (rate post & topic, usr ka

Post by pbrouwers » Thu Jul 14, 2011 7:13 pm

I guess he wants that you add the adjective "spoiler". But I would be more interested in the ability to add custom post adjectives in the acp.

B.t.w. can you make an option in the acp to choose between topic-star-rating and topic-adjective-rating?

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Re: [DEV]Mass Moderation in phpBB (rate post & topic, usr ka

Post by martec » Thu Jul 14, 2011 8:16 pm

pbrouwers wrote:I guess he wants that you add the adjective "spoiler". But I would be more interested in the ability to add custom post adjectives in the acp.

B.t.w. can you make an option in the acp to choose between topic-star-rating and topic-adjective-rating?
yep... exactly this... :)
I also think it's more interesting the ability to add custom post adjectives in the acp.

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Re: [DEV]Mass Moderation in phpBB (rate post & topic, usr ka

Post by Iceman85 » Thu Jul 14, 2011 8:31 pm

ok! I will try to implement the feature to add custom post adjectives in the acp...
why would you have "spoiler" adjective? I'm curious!!!! :D :D :D
pbrouwers wrote: B.t.w. can you make an option in the acp to choose between topic-star-rating and topic-adjective-rating?
Mmmhhhh.....To do this I should to study a good strategy for mapping topic-adjective-rating into topic-star-rating (or viceversa) to be able to switch from one to the other...
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Re: [DEV]Mass Moderation in phpBB (rate post & topic, usr ka

Post by pbrouwers » Thu Jul 14, 2011 8:43 pm

Don't know if others think the same, but I like the adjective rating more than the star rating, because it's way more easier to choose between words you know than choose between 5 stars because the difference between interesting and informative is bigger than between 4 and 5 stars. If you kinda like the topic you would give it 5 stars, but if you can choose between adjectives it will be done way more honest.
I'm talking about own experience: I installed a rating mod for topics on a forum for writing stories so people could rate the stories. And I noticed the adjective rating work kinda good, because almost never the rating combined with 5 stars was given.

Btw. did you come up with a solution for the sorting of the highest rated topics?

And if it would be a possibility to add custom adjectives, is it also possible to add more dan 5 adjective on the positive side? Maybe (don't know if it's possible) you could work with 0 - 0.5 - 1 - 1.5 - ... - 4.5 - 5 So also with halves?

Again: I really like this mod! I'm most definite going to use it on the story-forum :p I like the combination between topic-post-user-rating :p

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Re: [DEV]Mass Moderation in phpBB (rate post & topic, usr ka

Post by Walther » Fri Jul 15, 2011 4:06 pm

But it is still unwise to use this on a live board ?
I'm unable to motivate my moderators to log in more often and approve/disprove newly-registered-members postings :?
So I was kinda hoping this mod would be a solution.

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Re: [DEV]Mass Moderation in phpBB (rate post & topic, usr ka

Post by Iceman85 » Sat Jul 16, 2011 2:37 pm

pbrouwers wrote:Don't know if others think the same, but I like the adjective rating more than the star rating, because it's way more easier to choose between words you know than choose between 5 stars because the difference between interesting and informative is bigger than between 4 and 5 stars. If you kinda like the topic you would give it 5 stars, but if you can choose between adjectives it will be done way more honest.
I'm talking about own experience: I installed a rating mod for topics on a forum for writing stories so people could rate the stories. And I noticed the adjective rating work kinda good, because almost never the rating combined with 5 stars was given.

Btw. did you come up with a solution for the sorting of the highest rated topics?

And if it would be a possibility to add custom adjectives, is it also possible to add more dan 5 adjective on the positive side? Maybe (don't know if it's possible) you could work with 0 - 0.5 - 1 - 1.5 - ... - 4.5 - 5 So also with halves?

Again: I really like this mod! I'm most definite going to use it on the story-forum :p I like the combination between topic-post-user-rating :p
It's can be a good idea...Your suggestions are very important for me, because they refer to a real forum. Actually you are right...the adjectives can be put also in the system topic rating, and a user will be able to rate topics more accurately. I would like to implement both topic rating systems, that is the star rating and the adjective rating, and give to the admin the possibility to choose the system he prefers. I hope I can do it!!!!! :lol: :lol: :lol:
Walther wrote:But it is still unwise to use this on a live board ?
I'm unable to motivate my moderators to log in more often and approve/disprove newly-registered-members postings :?
So I was kinda hoping this mod would be a solution.
Hi Walther! This Mass Moderation MOD is still in dev version....The mod must be tested thoroughly and I still have to implement some modules (i.e. MM auto ban, MM move topic, ...) and some other features that are necessary in a real forum, where there are some users with bad intentions.
Short I will install a demo board and I hope that it will be tested by many users as possible.

If you have some ideas, put them here! :) :) :)
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Re: [DEV]Mass Moderation in phpBB (rate post & topic, usr ka

Post by pbrouwers » Mon Jul 18, 2011 5:20 pm

Hey again

Was just testing the MM mod again. If trying to install it with automod on 3.0.9 it forgets to add one code in the viewtopic which show the topic ratings stars. I guess you have to adapt it to 3.0.9 :p But it's not much only a little part in the viewtopic.php - part

Can you add ajax or jquery support so it isn't necessary to reload the page to see the rating value change.
And can you (don't know if it's even possible) change the pop-up - which says you're rating has been added - into a lightbox/fancybox or something like that. I guess it would be nicer :p

And you used a <li class="icon-faq> with the karma and token fields in viewtopic. Guess you have to change it to a custom icon?

Can you add an ability in the acp to change the names of the adjectives ratings? Because when I'm searching in the rate_post file, I don't know which I actually have to change :p

And how does the post-rating actually work? If I vote first "1" the post rating stays "0" if I then rate "2" it becomes "1". Does it work with "+1" en "-1"? Maybe you could work with more adjectives and so "+2' a.o.
Wouldn't it make more sense to give the highest adjective the highest number? Or maybe better no numbers? And maybe a little bit random? But that could be fixed if it's possible to make custom adjectives in acp: so give adjective name + rating value.

Why isn't it possible to rate posts of other users in your own topics?

And how is the karma value calculated?
And why can't you let the topic_rating have any affect on the karma?

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Re: [DEV]Mass Moderation in phpBB (rate post & topic, usr ka

Post by Iceman85 » Mon Jul 18, 2011 6:31 pm

pbrouwers wrote:Hey again

Was just testing the MM mod again. If trying to install it with automod on 3.0.9 it forgets to add one code in the viewtopic which show the topic ratings stars. I guess you have to adapt it to 3.0.9 :p But it's not much only a little part in the viewtopic.php - part
OK! The next version will be compatible with 3.0.9! I will work directly on it....
pbrouwers wrote: Can you add ajax or jquery support so it isn't necessary to reload the page to see the rating value change.
And can you (don't know if it's even possible) change the pop-up - which says you're rating has been added - into a lightbox/fancybox or something like that. I guess it would be nicer :p

And you used a <li class="icon-faq> with the karma and token fields in viewtopic. Guess you have to change it to a custom icon?
Sure!!!!! In this dev version I didn't give priority to the layout....
pbrouwers wrote: Can you add an ability in the acp to change the names of the adjectives ratings? Because when I'm searching in the rate_post file, I don't know which I actually have to change :p
At the moment, the adjectives are stored in a DB table....but, as I said, I will give the possibility to change them from ACP.....
pbrouwers wrote: And how does the post-rating actually work? If I vote first "1" the post rating stays "0" if I then rate "2" it becomes "1". Does it work with "+1" en "-1"? Maybe you could work with more adjectives and so "+2' a.o.
Wouldn't it make more sense to give the highest adjective the highest number? Or maybe better no numbers? And maybe a little bit random? But that could be fixed if it's possible to make custom adjectives in acp: so give adjective name + rating value.
:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D The post score depends on the ratings number for that post. Into the file "functions_mass_moderation.php" there is a function called "calc_post_score" ;) . Sorry for comments and the confusion, I have to do some refactoring.....!!!!
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Re: [DEV]Mass Moderation in phpBB (rate post & topic, usr ka

Post by trekker » Thu Aug 04, 2011 3:24 pm

hi all,

first things first: thank you iceman for such great work. this mod seems to be exactly what I need. For reasons quite other than efficiency, yest still

I msut start testing it soon :)

now, an important question:
in the requirements you write that it is recommended not to appoint moderators at all and if so, then not let them edit and delete posts

Is it because:
a) it simply makes no sense, becasue, for example one can edit a "on avareage) good rated post to make it sound bad and thus trick the users to giving it low score?
b) giving mods the delete priviliges messes up the karma calculation?
c) giving anyone the delete privilige messes up the automaticailly corrected mass moderator priviliges?

I have a case in which i'd like to use both karma and, in special circumstances, classic moderation.

Example:
lets's say that some content is not legally allowed in a country (like pornography in some)
in such a case i would not like to wait for users to rate offensive comment, but rather have mod's delete it promptly.

I am aware that having both mass moderation and classic moderation seems redundant, yet in the above described case waiting for the mass moderation and "wisdom of the crowd" to kick in might be too long. So what i am basicailly asking is:

if i leave classic moderators with delete priviliges and have mass moderation installed, will it - technically speaking - work?

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Re: [DEV]Mass Moderation in phpBB (rate post & topic, usr ka

Post by complexxLT » Wed Aug 17, 2011 7:47 am

This looks great. I am mostly interested in the post & topic rating part as all other mods I found for this are either abandoned or don't quite do what I expect.
Any ETA for stable release compatible with 3.0.9 ?

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Re: [DEV]Mass Moderation in phpBB (rate post & topic, usr ka

Post by djugod » Thu Aug 25, 2011 10:49 am

Hello,
Great job and good mod ! Actually, doesn't work with the phpbb 3.0.9.
Same question as complexxLT, Any ETA for stable release compatible with 3.0.9 ?
Thank you !

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Re: [DEV]Mass Moderation in phpBB (rate post & topic, usr ka

Post by pbrouwers » Sun Oct 16, 2011 9:54 pm

Any progress?

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Re: [DEV]Mass Moderation in phpBB (rate post & topic, usr ka

Post by Jessica » Mon Oct 17, 2011 2:56 pm

djugod wrote:Hello,
Great job and good mod ! Actually, doesn't work with the phpbb 3.0.9.
Same question as complexxLT, Any ETA for stable release compatible with 3.0.9 ?
Thank you !
what do you mean, it doesn't work with 3.0.9? you need to be specific.
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