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[ABD] Paid Subscriptions.

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MOD Title: phpBB Paid Subscriptions
MOD Description: This mod allows users to buy paid subscriptions
MOD Version: N/A
Supplied Languages: [en]
Supplied Styles: prosilver, subsilver2
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OK ... just starting down the road of this one. The idea is to offer users paid subscriptions.

On registration the user would either be presently with optional packages if setup by admin, or admin could force a subscription to be used or it might be disabled on registration.

The user will see and manage their subscriptions in the UCP. Multiple subscriptions should be possible.

Packages
The ACP will allow admins to define subscription packages and the associated group memberships. Packages should have info like cost, expiration date, renewal policy, renewal discount. packages should be able to be limited to payment types if required.

Payment Types
Admin should be able to setup and install payment type like paypal, google, nochex etc.. new payment types should be able to be installed by simply uploading a new file and enabling that type.

Transactions
Fully logging of all transactions (of course) and searchable

Permissions
A full set of permissions to limit which admins can do what. Also moderator permissions to maybe allow moderators view transaction logs so they can help users with queries etc...

OK so thats the rough idea? Opinions, comments & feature suggestions welcome. Please note this MOD is only in DEV status. That means I am working on the ideas at the moment. I have started some of the code, but will not show it till its stable enough ... as when dealing with money you have to be 101% about eveything ... so do not want to have to support it till I am sure its not going to cause me headaches.
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Re: [DEV] Paid Subscriptions.

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It's nice but i don't know how many people will want to pay for a forum :?

edit :
I have changed my idea :lol: ;)
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Re: [DEV] Paid Subscriptions.

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its actually a great idea ...

donations or even game forums will find this very usefull...

another great mod idea !
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Re: [DEV] Paid Subscriptions.

Post by antec »

fiorefrank wrote:It's nice but i don't know how many people will want to pay for a forum :?
If you own a huge forum thats good and active people will pay

I also think this mod is a good idea
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Re: [DEV] Paid Subscriptions.

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It is not for every board for sure. However for some I believe it will be very handy. On phpBB2 we use a MOD that does just paypal and we generate thousands in revenue to pay for hosting. However we do have a large popular board where members like supporting us. While the MOD of phpBB2 works i wanted a more flexible one on phpBB3 ... so I decided to write it.

Starting to put the flesh into the module layouts.

UCP
* Active subscriptions
* Purchase subscriptions (requires user purchase permission)
* Subscription history

MCP
* Search transactions (requires mod transaction permission)

ACP
* Settings (requires setting permission)
* Manage payment methods (requires admin payment permission)
* Manage subscrition packages (requires admin package permission)
* Manage transactions (requires admin transaction permission)
* Manage currencies (requires setting permission)
* Manually add subscription (requires admin transaction permission)
* Install payment method (requires admin payment permission)

The settings will decide stuff like can you have mutliple packages, do you have to select a package to join etc..

The idea is to include a new method you just upload one file ... so its a payment abstraction layer (think of the current cache or DB system)
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Re: [DEV] Paid Subscriptions.

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If you own a huge forum thats good and active people will pay
if i think better your're right, it can be usefull and it's nice :)
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Re: [DEV] Paid Subscriptions.

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thats really great !! its better then placing paypal in beacause there are multiple mods we can put without all the hastle of code changing etc...

really really good idea ... one of the best with the arcade one !!!
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Re: [DEV] Paid Subscriptions.

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Looking forward to this one, definately keep us updated!
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Re: [DEV] Paid Subscriptions.

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One idé to remove spammers and unwanted people with this is to create so that
there is no time limit for the payment..

But it will cost 0,01 per post you make or something similar.

And on registration, the admin can have created to give away 0-any amount of cash.
or whatever he want.. AND they will have to need to klick in a box to get is something like:
[X] Yes i want to have XX free amount of cash to post with, then spambots might not take it...

And the users can only see their own sum left on all posts under the avatar...

Each forum could have its own fee to post in.
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This will be ace if you can make it. I too run a clan's website so to have this available will make it so much easier for those that forget to donate etc.
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Re: [DEV] Paid Subscriptions.

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when do u think it will be out ?
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Re: [DEV] Paid Subscriptions.

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Volunteer Forum -> Think you might have misunderstood. This is not a pay for post or a account with cash to use within the forum. It is purely a way of paying to get group membership. Since permissions & features can be limited to groups it allows you have paid features on your forum. That might be access to a certain forum or avatars and signatures or if you have a MOD that has permissions on groups you could have people pay to access that MOD.

TRICHES.FR -> Do not expect it in a few days. The current status is very much design oreniated. I am doing the DB table design, module design, permissions design and basically trying to think through all required features and how I make it as slick as possible.

I would hope to have a rough working code that does end to end for me to do testing within 1-2 weeks. Depending on how things progress and how reliable it is looking I will then decide when I want to let others test it. One thing I do not want it people running it and money being taken and it not working as designed. All I need it for that to happen two or three time early on and people would mark this MOD as not trustworthy and that is the last thing I want. I am confident I can produce this .... you will just all have to be patient!! :D
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Re: [DEV] Paid Subscriptions.

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ye ... test it well ! if it has security holes that really, really not good !

keep the good work comming,

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Re: [DEV] Paid Subscriptions.

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OK ... Here is the planned current flow of package selection and payment.
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What do you all think? Make sense? Spot any stupid mistakes or stuff that is missing. Basically the idea is you select a package and then a payment method.

The payment method might be automatic like paypal or might be manual like sending in a cheque or manual bank transfer. Then either you get set to pending, approved or disapproved. Pending might be waiting for cheque or it might be paypal waiting to clear as someone used a e-cheque from paypal. Then if you move to approve you get group membership, else you get disapprove. Disapproved will remove you from group .. this is in case of a disapprove on renewal.

So how do renewals work? Well idea is you have a user option to keep payment method used already or chose a new one. This is for maybe last year you paid by cheque but this year have paypal access and want to change to autoamatic system.

So opinions please? I want feedback before I get too far into code and then people come up with some valid points why this way is not a good idea.
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Re: [DEV] Paid Subscriptions.

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hmm... looks good ... but i think that the subscriptions should not only be for a group, but also just to be a member ... though the rest is fine ..

Also the removal of group/use should not be done automaticly, the admins should have to do it via ACP

that allows the user to renewl in 1 week or so
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