antonjw2 wrote:sometimes people go so off-topic as to be completely outside the subject matter
In a phpBB
world the board owner either
- doesn't care, or
- splits off the post to a new topic, or
- splits off the post to a collective dump topic, or
- moves the whole topic elsewhere, or
- edits the post, or
- deletes the post, or
- warns the post author, or
- bans the post author.
The last four options are excellent for educating the author.
Thanks for your reply, Amigo.
Yes, those are all options, too. a) is fine.. but users get annoyed if threads are going off-topic regularly. b) to f) are all forms of censorship - which is rather heavy-handed for simple off-topic discussion.
So we are not optionless
at present, but we don't have a good
option which does not entail post-removal. This suggestion adds a type of moderation which doesn't currently exist - and doesn't involve deleting, editing, or splitting, or warning - all very non-subtle actions.
It would be useful to have as a moderator tool in phpBB to:
- de-emphasise posts without censoring
- quickly relegate
low-level off-topic postings that do not break rules,
but are unhelpful to the topic
and the flow of that discussion
- not being seen to overly edit
and be heavy-handed in moderating your board; keeping moderation subtle and reasonable
- adds a quick inline moderation
tool to the system, which can be used as a moderator is reading threads; no page-reloads means no additional time is required to moderate this scenario
Now if you could just quickly shrink ('Nudge' function) a post, and tuck it away into a single line... you've not really
hurt anyone's feelings by removing a post and are less likely to get PMs about it etc..
I appreciate that it is subtle, but I actually think the usefulness of this feature lies precisely in its subtlety. As moderators, sometimes we need to be as subtle as we can possibly be... and we should censor as a very last resort.
Splitting in any case is time-consuming - have you tried that lately on a multi-page thread?
Besides which it creates disharmony if you 'over-prune' your threads.
As moderators we do not actually have an adequate and subtle enough tool to deal with this without ripping threads apart on a regular basis - which is not good moderating practice in any case.
'Nudge' feature + a little JQuery would offer inline moderating
- it would be quicker, easier, more subtle and less drastic than removing posts - we would end up with tidier, easier to follow, more helpful discussions on our forums. Worth having imo if someone has the time to code it up.
p.s. your point about the possible effect on search is another added bonus of this idea which I hadn't thought of. removing these 'nudged' posts from search listings would indeed improve search too.