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Links Opening New Windows

Post by spello » Fri Feb 21, 2014 1:50 pm

Links Opening New Windows should be implemented into main phpBB package.

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Post by Paul » Fri Feb 21, 2014 2:00 pm

I disagree, it should be up to the user if he wants to open a link in a new window or not.
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Re: Links Opening New Windows

Post by Jessica » Fri Feb 21, 2014 4:29 pm

Yeah, not necessary.
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Re: Links Opening New Windows

Post by Master_Cylinder » Fri Feb 21, 2014 7:13 pm

Paul wrote:I disagree, it should be up to the user if he wants to open a link in a new window or not.
I disagree. It's up to the admin if he wants his links to open in a new window just like it's up to the admin to give permissions and install MODs/Extensions/styles/languages that he wants. If the admin *doesn't* force new links in a new window THEN it should be up to the user.

I don't know that this should be in the core though, that's different than who should choose new windows. If it's optional...maybe. If it's default, no.

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Re: Links Opening New Windows

Post by Ozo » Fri Feb 21, 2014 8:22 pm

Master_Cylinder wrote:
Paul wrote:I disagree, it should be up to the user if he wants to open a link in a new window or not.
I disagree. It's up to the admin if he wants his links to open in a new window

Modern browsers give user the choice for new window or not.

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Re: Links Opening New Windows

Post by Master_Cylinder » Fri Feb 21, 2014 8:41 pm

Ozo wrote:
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Paul wrote:I disagree, it should be up to the user if he wants to open a link in a new window or not.
I disagree. It's up to the admin if he wants his links to open in a new window
Modern browsers give user the choice for new window or not.
Unless the code "onclick="window.open" forces a new window, right?

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Re: Links Opening New Windows

Post by MaFeSa » Fri Feb 21, 2014 8:50 pm

Jessica wrote:Yeah, not necessary.
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Re: Links Opening New Windows

Post by Volksdevil » Fri Feb 21, 2014 9:46 pm

IMO internal links should always open in the same window/tab (Unless popping a form or similar requires different) and external links should always open a new window/tab.
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Re: Links Opening New Windows

Post by Master_Cylinder » Fri Feb 21, 2014 10:36 pm

Volksdevil wrote:IMO internal links should always open in the same window/tab (Unless popping a form or similar requires different) and external links should always open a new window/tab.
Some internal links, maybe. When I use WordPress as the home page and /forums for phpBB, I prefer to open the forums in a new window even though it's technically an internal link within the same domain. The FAQ, search, UCP/MCP/ACP and a few others wouldn't be *bad* as a new window.

I certainly wouldn't want *all* links to default to a new window but if it was optional and not default then I have less of a problem with it being a setting in the core.

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Re: Links Opening New Windows

Post by AmigoJack » Mon Feb 24, 2014 8:28 am

Master_Cylinder wrote:Unless the code "onclick="window.open" forces a new window, right?
Only with JS enabled. A more "reliable" approach is the target attribute, but then again: good internet browsers allow you to ignore such crap.

Forcing links to not open in the same spot has always been and will always been a pain. Enforcing your subjective preferences (links opening, richtext editor, JS gimmicks, Farcebook likes, background music, etc...) to others will only lower acceptance.
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Re: Links Opening New Windows

Post by Master_Cylinder » Mon Feb 24, 2014 10:00 am

I used that code as an example because that's what the KB suggests but the point is that it would default to opening in a new window unless somebody installs a browser plugin that changes that default and that's what OP suggested.

If it's an option, it's not that bad but I still wouldn't do it for all pages.

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Post by Volksdevil » Mon Mar 03, 2014 10:14 am

I just don't understand why people are against external links opening new tabs/windows. Must be my e-commerce background...Why do you want people navigating off/away from your site at any time? :?
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Re: Links Opening New Windows

Post by AmigoJack » Mon Mar 03, 2014 11:32 am

@Volksdevil: I fail to find a connection between your first sentence (because it's annoying) and the question (the target is already "off/away" from my site - getting back to the previous site is virtually no difference: either I do ALT+LEFT or ALT+TAB or CTRL+TAB).
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Re: Links Opening New Windows

Post by garden of green » Mon Mar 03, 2014 12:27 pm

Volksdevil wrote:IMO internal links should always open in the same window/tab (Unless popping a form or similar requires different) and external links should always open a new window/tab.
I agree thats how i like a forum to be set up,but thats just me

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Re: Links Opening New Windows

Post by Volksdevil » Mon Mar 03, 2014 12:45 pm

AmigoJack wrote:@Volksdevil: I fail to find a connection between your first sentence (because it's annoying) and the question (the target is already "off/away" from my site - getting back to the previous site is virtually no difference: either I do ALT+LEFT or ALT+TAB or CTRL+TAB).
I'm just going off the amount of times I've been on a site, clicked an External link which opens in the same tab making it seamless (As though you are on the same site) and then...Hitting the close/X button and realising I've closed/lost the initial site. :roll: That's what I find annoying.

A new tab/window to me instantly lets me know I've opened a different/external website. And that the website I was on is still there in the same tab/window. That's what they are for, viewing different websites.

That's from my experience of being on the net since it began. (I don't want to remember how long that is/showing my age maybe) :lol: and it's a very basic web design rule. Anyway, I'm off to click 'Hosting' up top ^^ and then the first link 'Bluehost'...I may be a while as I may accidentally close the tab/window, after all I will have navigated away from phpbb. :P
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