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Mark Edited Posts as Unread

Post by david63 » Fri May 25, 2018 3:23 pm

The title is, I think, self explanatory.

There are many board users who use the "Unrear posts" option when accessing a board. The downside of this is that where, as with phpBB, there is a policy of not bumping topics by adding another reply but to edit the last post then you miss these edited posts.

I cannot believe that this is not already in the Ideas forum (or if it is I could not see it)
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Re: Mark Edited Posts as Unread

Post by Brf » Fri May 25, 2018 4:43 pm

You mean to bump the topic when it is edited?

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Post by david63 » Fri May 25, 2018 4:48 pm

Brf wrote:
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You mean to bump the topic when it is edited?
No I mean mark it unread
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Post by Brf » Fri May 25, 2018 4:50 pm

There is no such things as "marked unread".
A topic is "unread" if its last edited date is beyond the user-marked date for the board/forum/topic.
Therefore, to mark a topic as unread, you would have to change its last edited date, which is exactly what "bumping" does.

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Re: Mark Edited Posts as Unread

Post by Dan Stylez » Fri May 25, 2018 5:33 pm

I think this would be a good addition, especially as on some forums that don't have bumping rules etc some members don't like to post after their own posts, so they go back and update their post, which is often not noticed.

A down point could be that if someone edits their post just to correct a simple spelling mistake, it would keep flagging as unread.
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Post by thecoalman » Sun May 27, 2018 8:27 am

Perhaps the edits could be integrated with bump function, e.g. "Submit & Bump" that would appear after X amount of time.
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Post by Brf » Sun May 27, 2018 4:49 pm

thecoalman wrote:
Sun May 27, 2018 8:27 am
Perhaps the edits could be integrated with bump function, e.g. "Submit & Bump" that would appear after X amount of time.
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Re: Mark Edited Posts as Unread

Post by Ger » Mon May 28, 2018 1:40 pm

Curious, can't quote the first post here...
where, as with phpBB, there is a policy of not bumping topics by adding another reply but to edit the last post then you miss these edited posts.
I think one should ask himself as a board owner: why don't I want people to add a reply instead of editing the last post? I think this is to prevent pseudo-bumping.

Therefore, if this is implemented:
thecoalman wrote:
Sun May 27, 2018 8:27 am
Perhaps the edits could be integrated with bump function, e.g. "Submit & Bump" that would appear after X amount of time.
The whole rule just doesn't make sense anymore. The topic is bumped anyway.

If however the topics_track table is changed for user_id/topic_id combo to set the mark_time back to the previous post, that could indeed help: the post shows up in the unread posts function again (or any other way to list topics) but it's not bumped to be the latest post in a forum, it's not on top of the topic listing in a forum, etc.

So I actually see the benefit of this idea. Not sure if it's a good idea though.
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Re: Mark Edited Posts as Unread

Post by Brf » Mon May 28, 2018 1:55 pm

Ger wrote:
Mon May 28, 2018 1:40 pm

If however the topics_track table is changed for user_id/topic_id combo to set the mark_time back to the previous post,
You would have to change it for every user to make that useful. It also would not work for editing posts in the middle of a topic, or where anyone has used “mark all read” for the forum, or board as a whole. Marking-all-read deletes the topics_track for every topic in the forum or board. The way to make it work is to edit the topic’s last post date, just like bumping.

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Re: Mark Edited Posts as Unread

Post by Leinad4Mind » Tue May 07, 2019 2:53 pm

This bump and mark edited posts seems to me a bad idea. Why should it touch in posts times, that always causes problems.

3.1 implemented Notifications. We should use more the notifications system. And this is, at least for me, the right thing to do with this idea. Sending a notification to all users that bookmarked and/or subscribed the topic when the topic (1st post) is edited. About the others messages I don't see the advantage of sending a notification but why not... (maybe an acp option to choose between 1st post only and all posts)
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Re: Mark Edited Posts as Unread

Post by roberto.vinha » Wed Oct 30, 2019 2:22 pm

All users who have read the topic should be notified of the edition.
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Re: Mark Edited Posts as Unread

Post by david63 » Wed Oct 30, 2019 2:29 pm

roberto.vinha wrote:
Wed Oct 30, 2019 2:22 pm
All users who have read the topic should be notified of the edition.
Only if they want to be
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Re: Mark Edited Posts as Unread

Post by roberto.vinha » Wed Oct 30, 2019 2:38 pm

david63 wrote:
Wed Oct 30, 2019 2:29 pm
roberto.vinha wrote:
Wed Oct 30, 2019 2:22 pm
All users who have read the topic should be notified of the edition.
Only if they want to be
Yes, could have configuration option.
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Re: Mark Edited Posts as Unread

Post by warmweer » Wed Oct 30, 2019 3:06 pm

roberto.vinha wrote:
Wed Oct 30, 2019 2:22 pm
All users who have read the topic should be notified of the edition.
Yes, a notification that a post was edited seems to be the better option, without it being set as a default notification.
The problem with non-default notifications is that users never seem to know they exists (in fact usually don't even know how to change their notification settings (which is why I put "problems" in italics - the real problem is the users ;) ).
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Post by EA117 » Wed Oct 30, 2019 4:17 pm

For what it's worth, my "vote" would be for the message author/editor to be the one making that choice, because they are the ones who know the nature of the edit. Meaning I liked the "Submit Edit" versus "Submit Edit & Bump Topic" option for the person who is editing, so that they can indicate the difference between "I changed a word" versus "wow, I screwed that up bad."

The reader being "forced" to see this as a "bumped thread" is no different than control the author already has. i.e. They could have simply posted a new message quoting themselves and saying "wow, I screwed that up bad, here is the correct information" instead of editing the bad information out of their original post. And no one would have a choice of whether the thread was bumped or not, because it's a new message.

So giving the author that control and decision when editing doesn't seem like "some new unwanted notification burden", from my perspective.

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