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webp photos are already supported by every major mainstream web browser currently in development.

I cannot presume to speak for everyone, but it has been my personal experience whenever seeking out photos to share; all the websites I pull from as a casual user are already using WEBP. That is to say, my members, when posting images, are already frustrated that all the cool photos they wish to share seem to be incompatible with the site. To put that into context, imagine visiting a forum that was incompatible with JPEG. At this point, general web compliance and practiced user engagement should be enough to justify adaptation, in my opinion.

Thank you for your generous time and consideration. :-)

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I am talking about attaching .webp photos to a post (I am talking about uploading and attaching and having that image display, and I am not talking about hotlinking).
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I cannot see any problem with inserting .webp files.

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david63 wrote:
Thu Feb 25, 2021 10:25 am
I cannot see any problem with inserting .webp files.

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That is because you hot-linked the photo. -- Try uploading the photo ;)

I have a web camera that saves photos in .webp by default, for example. Not everyone is going to try to convert an image either. Search a royalty-free or public domain stock imagine site, and some of those will be .webp too. There are a lot of people using .webp, and users are often surprised that they are not supported.
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So you are not asking for phpBB to support webp file format but the ability to auto upload from the likes of a mobile phone.
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strangely enough I copied that image to my computer. it shows up in the file list. however, when I try to attach it to a reply,
it does not show up at all in the file list to select it.
very strange.


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david63 wrote:
Thu Feb 25, 2021 2:14 pm
So you are not asking for phpBB to support webp file format but the ability to auto upload from the likes of a mobile phone.
I don't think he's asking for that at all. If you upload that image (after allowing .webp and .wbp), you receive this error when clicking on the status icon:

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Is that saying that the phpbb.com web server does not support it?
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david63 wrote:
Thu Feb 25, 2021 2:14 pm
So you are not asking for phpBB to support webp file format but the ability to auto upload from the likes of a mobile phone.
I should be able to upload it from any device...ie... phone, desktop, laptop, tablet, etc... I can do so with a JPEG, GIF, and PNG file for example. But at the moment WEBP is not supported by phpBB.
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KaileyT wrote:
Thu Feb 25, 2021 3:28 pm
david63 wrote:
Thu Feb 25, 2021 2:14 pm
So you are not asking for phpBB to support webp file format but the ability to auto upload from the likes of a mobile phone.
I don't think he's asking for that at all. If you upload that image (after allowing .webp and .wbp), you receive this error when clicking on the status icon:


webp_error.png
This. The message actually reads that it is not a supported extension (invalid file extension) here on phpBB.com. On my localhost, I tried to manually add the photo association.

ACP > Posting > Manage attachment extensions > .webp > images > submit

But upon trying to attach a photo with a .webp extension, I am informed that it is not supported. My localhost has both GD and ImageMagick enabled. I tested this with competing software, and they work without issue.
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Brf wrote:
Thu Feb 25, 2021 4:56 pm
Is that saying that the phpbb.com web server does not support it?
No, tested on a testboard I have setup as well as an internal board at my company.
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php-BB-Is-Awesome wrote:
Thu Feb 25, 2021 1:15 pm
david63 wrote:
Thu Feb 25, 2021 10:25 am
I cannot see any problem with inserting .webp files.
That is because you hot-linked the photo.
Simply embedding a resource is not checked by default - you could also embed a HEIC or PCX picture, provided it is served elsewhere. php-BB-Is-Awesome is talking about attaching such a file.

If a picture width/height/filesize restriction would be active here then embedding WEBP would fail, too. Try that on a test board.
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AmigoJack wrote:
Fri Feb 26, 2021 7:38 am
php-BB-Is-Awesome is talking about attaching such a file.
Then that should have been made clear in the OP, and a generalisation that phpBB does not support this format.
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david63 wrote:
Fri Feb 26, 2021 8:19 am
that should have been made clear
With all respect to your long experience, but "inserting .webp files" is equally ambiguous (if not wrong) as the initial post not using the term "attachment". I'm used to newcomers not being precise, but you weren't better in that post.

Why moderators don't fix improper terms in crucial posts (such as the first to an idea) is also beyond my understanding. One could also argue that this is a bug, incorporating that /phpbb/files/upload.php in image_types() doesn't handle IMAGETYPE_JPEG2000, IMAGETYPE_ICO and IMAGETYPE_WEBP (the latter only available with PHP 7.1.0 and younger).
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AmigoJack wrote:
Fri Feb 26, 2021 10:24 am
I'm used to newcomers not being precise, but you weren't better in that post.
Nobody's perfect and everyone, no matter how much experience, isn't always 100% clear when expressing thoughts/recommendations, and even with years of experience mistakes are made (and you're no exception).

To be honest, when I saw this topic at first, I also tested linking a .webp inside a post and didn't realise that "attachment" was the issue.
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OK, let's all calm down and stick to the idea at hand. There's no need for the back-and-forth of terminology. It's now clear the OP is proposing attachment support.
AmigoJack wrote:
Fri Feb 26, 2021 10:24 am
Why moderators don't fix improper terms in crucial posts (such as the first to an idea) is also beyond my understanding
We will periodically advise users of the correct terminology, but going through and editing posts just so the same terms are used is a little over the top. It's the same as the whole thread vs. topic debate that constantly goes on. ;)
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