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Re: Marketplace extension

Post by Mick » Fri Jul 13, 2018 4:39 pm

Getting a PayPal business account would go part way to it. It would be a hell of an undertaking considering the security aspect alone, constant vigilance would be required, it's not a static and, as can be seen, no-one has offered to take it up. Then there's GDPR.
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Re: Marketplace extension

Post by Lumpy Burgertushie » Fri Jul 13, 2018 4:44 pm

like I said, much quicker and simpler to just add a marketplace/classifed script to your site. link it to phpbb if you have a reason to discuss things at your marketplace. that is how most people do it to begin with and it seems to work much better that way.

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Re: Marketplace extension

Post by Hartenheer » Fri Jul 13, 2018 6:46 pm

Mick wrote:
Fri Jul 13, 2018 4:39 pm
Getting a PayPal business account would go part way to it. It would be a hell of an undertaking considering the security aspect alone, constant vigilance would be required, it's not a static and, as can be seen, no-one has offered to take it up. Then there's GDPR.
You write about a marketplace.
I mean an ad page. You do not need a payment there

That's why I did not understand why it was so difficult. :oops:
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Re: Marketplace extension

Post by 3Di » Fri Jul 13, 2018 7:01 pm

Somebody to post a link to a board which have a marketplace in action (it doesn't matter if phpBB or what not).

And where to lurk at it without registering.

I mean a Board, not a site with a script of sort like magento or the likes.
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Re: Marketplace extension

Post by 3Di » Fri Jul 13, 2018 11:24 pm

.. together with this I guess https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/tapatal ... arketplace

I don't see this that hard thanks to all of the code we already have in action here.

.. yeah, just a couple of hundred of hours of work more. :lol: :geek:
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Re: Marketplace extension

Post by Toxyy » Sat Jul 14, 2018 11:43 pm

3Di wrote:
Fri Jul 13, 2018 11:24 pm
.. together with this I guess https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/tapatal ... arketplace

I don't see this that hard thanks to all of the code we already have in action here.

.. yeah, just a couple of hundred of hours of work more. :lol: :geek:
Which is why I asked when you came out with your ultimate points, are you going to add events to that? A point marketplace could be made, and if points could be bought with paypal/coin through some other helper extension, then you could have a good marketplace, especially if some sort of "other" points were made that you could only buy or something.
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Re: Marketplace extension

Post by 3Di » Sun Jul 15, 2018 12:12 am

Toxyy wrote:
Sat Jul 14, 2018 11:43 pm
3Di wrote:
Fri Jul 13, 2018 11:24 pm
.. together with this I guess https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/tapatal ... arketplace

I don't see this that hard thanks to all of the code we already have in action here.

.. yeah, just a couple of hundred of hours of work more. :lol: :geek:
Which is why I asked when you came out with your ultimate points, are you going to add events to that? A point marketplace could be made, and if points could be bought with paypal/coin through some other helper extension, then you could have a good marketplace, especially if some sort of "other" points were made that you could only buy or something.
Ultimate points is not an extension made by us (phpbbstudio), there are no plans to add events for it either.
We got to add a custom karma/points sytem to it as per the customer request.. and a lot more.

The public version published here, as per the above link, is about 300 commits behind the private repo where we are working on it.

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At the end of all, even if we can use a lot of its code to create a true marketplace that's something not planned.

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As an extension developer my approach is that I have to not only have the time to create the extension (and in some cases you can be talking several hundred hours) but also, more importantly, the interest in that particular extension, and this is how the majority of extension developers approach creating an extension. Also the attitude of some users in how they think an extension should work, or features that it should have, does little to encourage the creation of extensions.
..which I quoted since I do totally agree with him.
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Re: Marketplace extension

Post by Toxyy » Sun Jul 15, 2018 1:18 am

It just reminded me of RPG Inferno, for anyone who fiddled with Invisionfree, a lot. I see requests now and again for some sort of gamification, or a point based marketplace, or just a plain marketplace, etc. It would have to be configured yeah but I figured since the points were already there, adding a point marketplace would be the first step, then the second step would be to add some sort of paypal or crypto gateway to buy the sites currency, or a secondary "members only" currency like a lot of mobile games are doing nowadays, or something like that.

I understand, it was merely my speculation for an approach to make a marketplace based upon past techniques and an already available extension :)
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Re: Marketplace extension

Post by vipaka » Mon Jul 30, 2018 4:22 am

I feel compelled to comment after reading some of the (naive) comments on here...

I taught myself to code thinking "it'll be simple, the extension I want can't be that hard" with the same mentality I'm seeing on here. I don't regret it but, for the record, it took YEARS. Sure, after a few *months* of learning, you'll be able to do some copy-pasta that you barely understand and maybe make something do what you want it to, but it will likely have unintended side effects (bugs), not have any security, not be performant at all, and you'll likely have to scale back on the features you wanted for it initially because you just won't know enough to make them the way you originally envisioned. And that is best case scenario, because a large amount of people who try to learn programming just give up completely (it has one of the highest dropout/fail rates of any college major) because of the difficulty curve. Just some (hard-earned) wisdom from experience, feel free to ignore it though...

That aside, to the point of why developers aren't working on this...I don't think it matters at all how many people want something, or how popular it might be, considering that no one currently has any interest in spending their spare time making it for free. Popularity and demand only matter when there is something worth monetary value on the line. There is zero incentive (and seems like motivation as well) to build such an extension right now. Until that changes, it won't get made unless you make it yourself because right now, the cost at an average developer salary to make an extension like this is too high to reasonably expect from anyone for a project like this, and no one seems inspired to make it out of their own generosity considering the scale/time requirements for such a project.

I agree that you would be better off just getting a framework designed for such market transactions and integrating it with phpbb. I don't know why no one has name-dropped any of them yet, but here are some ideas: Magento, Shopify, Drupal...if you're looking for something more along an ad/classifieds system, there are third party systems for that too. Wordpress, OpenClassifieds, ClassiAds
If you went ahead and installed one of those guys, then hooked it up (separately) to a phpbb forum even if it was by something as easy as just a link in the navigation, you'd basically be most of the way there to having a forum tied to a market site. I believe there are existing integrations available for one or more of the above already within phpbb, just maybe not 3.2 (but if you feel strongly enough to learn to code for this project, maybe start there). I hope that helps.

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