[Request] Cascade deletions to quotes

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[Request] Cascade deletions to quotes

Post by Esternial » Fri Nov 16, 2018 12:22 pm

Hi,

I'll keep it brief to avoid taking up too much of your time, my question is quite simple:

When deleting a post as a Moderator on a phpBB forum, is it possible to cascade this deletion down to the posts in which it was quoted?

Take for instance a case where someone has posted some personal information which, in retrospect, they want to have removed. It is quite easy to have the post itself deleted, but I am unsure if this deletion would then impact the posts where it is quoted. On the forum on which I am active, this is not the case.

Would it not be safer and more efficient to provide this functionality as some kind of checkbox which, when checked, would automagically remove the content from the deleted post from any posts that quote it (eg. replacing it with some standard "this post has been deleted" text)?

I'm not sure if this is viable to implement (or if it is already available) so I'd appreciate some feedback.

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Re: [Request] Cascade deletions to quotes

Post by Toxyy » Fri Nov 16, 2018 7:49 pm

I haven't fully looked into this extension, just the functions it uses, but the workings of this functionality are in here:
https://www.phpbb.com/customise/db/exte ... ted_where/
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Re: [Request] Cascade deletions to quotes

Post by Ger » Mon Nov 19, 2018 4:08 pm

Toxyy wrote:
Fri Nov 16, 2018 7:49 pm
I haven't fully looked into this extension, just the functions it uses, but the workings of this functionality are in here:
https://www.phpbb.com/customise/db/exte ... ted_where/
That (my) extension only changes the name in the quote. So if you were removed or have your name changed, above quote would be:
Anonymous wrote:
Fri Nov 16, 2018 7:49 pm
I haven't fully looked into this extension, just the functions it uses, but the workings of this functionality are in here:
https://www.phpbb.com/customise/db/exte ... ted_where/
IMO, it would also be a very bad idea to delete the entire quote from other users posts.
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Re: [Request] Cascade deletions to quotes

Post by imkingdavid » Mon Nov 26, 2018 7:09 pm

Given that the quote tag now supports a post_id attribute, it would be possible to delete all quotes of that post that use that post_id attribute, but it wouldn't catch cases where the post contents were quoted but not marked with that post_id (and I think trying to do so using a find/replace could be very dangerous).

That being said, I don't think it is a good idea to allow a non-moderator user (e.g. User A) to permanently change the content of another user's (User B) post, even if that content is a quote of User A's deleted post. If I were to quote someone's post and reply only to it, and then they delete their post and the quote goes away, my post loses context and therefore may make no sense to future readers of the thread.

I think it should be up to the user to contact moderators if he finds that deleted, personal information has been quoted somewhere, so that they can remove it in a way that makes sense but still makes the thread readable.
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Re: [Request] Cascade deletions to quotes

Post by warmweer » Mon Nov 26, 2018 7:54 pm

imkingdavid wrote:
Mon Nov 26, 2018 7:09 pm
Given that the quote tag now supports a post_id attribute, it would be possible to delete all quotes of that post that use that post_id attribute, ....
If everyone quoted correctly, then yes, But I've seen posts (not on phpBB.com - yet) with multiquotes not properly done and the poster then trying to correct them and ending up with wrongly nested quotes or quotes with incorrect post_id references (see example below - click on the post_id link, on the user_id and have a look at the time).
imkingdavid wrote:
Thu Nov 29, 1973 9:33 pm
Given that the quote tag now supports a post_id attribute, it would be possible to delete all quotes of that post that use that post_id attribute, ....
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