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Re: How to upgrade to 3.2 from 3.1

Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2018 7:38 am
by david63
garfy wrote:
Sun Jul 22, 2018 7:25 am
you rely on backups
No you don't.

You have your own backup regime that you are in control of - it is all part of running any site.

Re: How to upgrade to 3.2 from 3.1

Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2018 7:46 am
by garfy
so can you tell me how you export your databases? Because with bluehost when i do phpmyadmin export i ALWAYS get timeout or the db is broken....
please explein the best practice to keep backups

Re: How to upgrade to 3.2 from 3.1

Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2018 7:51 am
by david63
garfy wrote:
Sun Jul 22, 2018 7:46 am
please explein the best practice to keep backups
There are many good backup utilities and tutorials available via a Google search. I would suggest that you find the one that is most appropriate for your circumstances.

Re: How to upgrade to 3.2 from 3.1

Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2018 7:52 am
by garfy
you see again a vague nonspecific answer.....thank you for nothing....next time dont bother answering

Re: How to upgrade to 3.2 from 3.1

Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2018 8:03 am
by Ibedejo
Bluehost_FAQs wrote: Bluehost Web Hosting Help

Automatic Backup Frequency


We do offer complimentary backups for our customers. They are created on a daily, weekly and monthly basis. These backups are not guaranteed in any way. We highly recommend all Bluehost customers create and manage their own backups.
=> "These backups are not guaranteed in any way. We highly recommend all Bluehost customers create and manage their own backups. " ...

Re: How to upgrade to 3.2 from 3.1

Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2018 8:07 am
by garfy
AGAIN and this is the last time I will say this....
how to manage database backups by yourself if each time you try to export the database from phpmyadmin the datase is missing 50% of files....or the process gets interrupted....or I get timeout error.....
I tries using ssh with putty, same problem....

this is my last time i explain this....it is not my fault....i want to make backups myself but Bluehost system is so messed up and is full of bugs it does ot let me do that....

Re: How to upgrade to 3.2 from 3.1

Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2018 8:19 am
by janus_zonstraal
garfy wrote:
Sun Jul 22, 2018 7:46 am
so can you tell me how you export your databases? Because with bluehost when i do phpmyadmin export i ALWAYS get timeout or the db is broken....
please explein the best practice to keep backups
Try to do only a few tables on the same time.

Or use a other program like Adminer

Re: How to upgrade to 3.2 from 3.1

Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2018 8:24 am
by Ibedejo
Did you draw the DB backup yourself, did you do it correctly, did you make sure the backup process ran flawlessly from start to the very end, did you verify/check the backup ... did you really do all of this prior to your initial attempt to upgrade?

Yes or no?

Re: How to upgrade to 3.2 from 3.1

Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2018 8:26 am
by canonknipser
garfy wrote:
Sun Jul 22, 2018 7:46 am
so can you tell me how you export your databases? Because with bluehost when i do phpmyadmin export i ALWAYS get timeout or the db is broken....
please explein the best practice to keep backups
As a website owner, you are responsible for the integrity of you data, so you need to know how, what and when to backup on a regular base.
Never, never, never rely only on your hosts backups (unless you have a detailed contract with them to create and restore (in case) a full set of backups for your site - and even then ...)

So:
It depends on the size of your database how you can make backups.
With phpmyadmin, you can deselect certain tables, so those won't be backuped. I would recommend to exclude the search-tables from the backup, because they can easily been rebuild with phpBB. You need only the structure of the tables, not the content.
If you still have issues with timeouts, just make it in chunks, and backup the biggest tables (which would be posts and two or three others) separate.

But it is not only the database, it's also the complete file structure which need a backup, otherwise you can loose all uploaded data like attachments and avatars and all your extension and extra style files.
See Knowledge Base - Transferring Your Board to a New Host or Domain for a idea what to backup.

There are some other database backuptools out there, bigdump is mentioned in the article, but as written doesn't work with php 7.x. Another is mysqldumper which has a community port to work with php 7.x, just use your preferred online search engine to find more informations.

Re: How to upgrade to 3.2 from 3.1

Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2018 10:06 am
by HiFiKabin
I know you do not like hearing this but the problem happened because you did not follow the instructions EXACTLY, and you did not make any backups yourself BEFORE attempting an upgrade. Your site (from the little I have seen) has had additions to some style files as well as extensions added. Only YOU know what you have done and where you have done it.

The backup question is not easily answered as my method may not suit you which is why you were asked to look around. "Theres more than one way to skin a cat"

BUT for a one off backup phpBB 3.x.x. has a tool built into the core.
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To fully recover your site you need the following
  1. Recent database backup
  2. BigDump
  3. Full set of phpBB 3.1.x files
Then read the following KB (I know you are not transferring a site, but this will tell you what to do)

Transferring Your Board to a New Host or Domain

... and remember, its not our fault that neither you nor BlueHost keep regular backups. YOU are the site owner, its YOUR job to keep backups.

Also remember that everyone who helps here does so for free in their spare time. Please be patient.

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Re: How to upgrade to 3.2 from 3.1

Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2018 10:48 am
by Mick
BigDump doesn’t work with PHP 7 which is a huge shame.

Maybe somebody could have a look at it and get it working with 7?

Re: How to upgrade to 3.2 from 3.1

Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2018 3:07 pm
by stevemaury

Re: How to upgrade to 3.2 from 3.1

Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2018 9:58 am
by garfy
by miracle I managed to save my site.....BLUEHOST FAILED at every instance......their backups and support team are so unskilled......
we are looking for a better host right now.....

one more thing....
HOW TO CHECK if the database that you export is whole, and the part of it is not misssing? How do you check that?
With Bluehost every time I exported database half of it was missing and I thought well I have backups and I am safe....then when you want to use it it fails miserably....

Re: How to upgrade to 3.2 from 3.1

Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2018 10:01 am
by </Solidjeuh>
phpbb_zebra is the last table, if that one is present, your database should be complete..

Re: How to upgrade to 3.2 from 3.1

Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2018 10:05 am
by HiFiKabin
Before you attempt the move from 3.1.x to 3.2.x again please READ ALL OF THE ADVICE in this topic.

Then when you have read it, if you are at all unsure ASK. Moving from 3.1.x to 3.2.x is a simple process as long as you do it in the correct sequence and NEVER miss a step.

Also (as has been pointed out several times) NEVER rely on any host to keep backups for you. That is your job.