Mick wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 29, 2018 12:39 pm
new.new wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 29, 2018 12:25 pm
Maybe I was misunderstood, obviously i'm not asking to remove the support for these smiles from phpbb, i just want to disable them for my board.
Regarding the issue "If and when the replacement of these characters with consistent images is disabled, what we're left with is how those same characters are going to be displayed by the user's native platform", it would be solved by simply deleting these characters (replacing them with nothing). I tried doing it with word filters but it doesn't work.
You should make an extemsion request.
Agreed on the extension request.
new.new, it's understood and agreed that you're just trying to turn it off on your own board. Where I said "if the support was removed", I too just meant "when you turned off the existing phpBB support for this on your board." Just "removed" from the perspective of someone writing a message or reading a message on a board where such a setting is in effect.
I'm still asserting "this is different" than simply turning off phpBB smilies support, because "the Unicode emoji is the character the user typed."
That wasn't decided by phpBB; it was decided by the user writing the message. Meaning:
By default if a user writes ":)", phpBB will turn that into
. If you turn off smilies support, the user's message still contains ":)", not "nothing" or "simply deleted these characters." The user's communication is intact, but "not graphical." Saying "I don't want the graphics" doesn't impede the communication.
By default if a user writes ":smile:", phpBB will turn that into the referenced Unicode emoji of 😄. If you turn off that support, the user message still contains ":smile:". The user's communication is intact, but "not graphical." Saying "I don't want the graphics" doesn't impede the communication.
By default if a user inputs the actual Unicode emoji character "😄", phpBB will replace that with an image so that it displays consistently instead of randomly across all platforms. If you turn off that support, the user's message still contains "😄", just now being displayed however their browser / platform / Android / Windows / iOS wants to display it, which may or may not still be successful or clear to the reader, and may still be "graphical" against your wishes.
It's that extra step you just cited, "simply deleting these characters", where I'm saying on behalf of users, "please don't do that." The sarcastic becomes un-sarcastic, because you removed the indication of it being sarcastic. The light-hearted diplomatic response becomes serious and accusing, because you removed the indication of its nature. Because you're not saying "I just don't want the graphic version of the communication" as was true in all the other cases just listed; you're saying "remove part of the user's message."
It can still be addressed in the extension that is created, which is what I meant when saying "It seems like there would need to be some other behaviors created" besides just "turn off the support." You need to prevent the user from entering these characters to begin with, so that they know what their communication is limited to, and understand what's happening before it happens. Not just "strip them out when displaying the message later."