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Lumpy Burgertushie wrote:
Tue Feb 05, 2019 10:06 pm
I think you still misunderstand. if you change it to no for the NRU group then the YES in the RU group will take affect and they will be able to edit the profile even though they have a no from the NRU group.
That is exactly what i want
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Lumpy Burgertushie wrote:
Tue Feb 05, 2019 10:06 pm
once the NRU group member reaches the number of posts that you set they will be removed from the NRU and left in the RU and will be able to edit their profile.
That was what i wanted to happen but when the had reach the 5 post and enter the RU groupe the stil could not edit there profile.. when i set the NRU to NO instead of never it works and the NRU embers can now edit there profile
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I guess maybe I misunderstood what you were trying to accomplish.


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Jesper Møller wrote:
Tue Feb 05, 2019 11:03 pm
Lumpy Burgertushie wrote:
Tue Feb 05, 2019 10:06 pm
once the NRU group member reaches the number of posts that you set they will be removed from the NRU and left in the RU and will be able to edit their profile.
That was what i wanted to happen but when the had reach the 5 post and enter the RU groupe the stil could not edit there profile.. when i set the NRU to NO instead of never it works and the NRU embers can now edit there profile
Then you need to use the permission mask to find out where the block is coming from. It may be from another group they happen to be in.

And just a point, they do not enter the RU group. When they register they go in to BOTH the RU and the NRU groups, but the NRU group has NEVER permissions on certain items that stop them being able to do those things. When they hit x number of posts, they drop out of that group and retain the full RU permissions assigned when they next log in.
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KevC wrote:
Wed Feb 06, 2019 9:09 am
And just a point, they do not enter the RU group. When they register they go in to BOTH the RU and the NRU groups, but the NRU group has NEVER permissions on certain items that stop them being able to do those things. When they hit x number of posts, they drop out of that group and retain the full RU permissions assigned when they next log in.
I had some mebers in the RU group that stil cud not edit profile do to the never person in the NRU group so the dint drop out of the NRU but inherit that permission so i had to make that NO sited of never to make the NRU permissions take over
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Jesper Møller wrote:
Wed Feb 06, 2019 3:33 pm
I had some mebers in the RU group that stil cud not edit profile do to the never person in the NRU group so the dint drop out of the NRU but inherit that permission so i had to make that NO sited of never to make the NRU permissions take over
Sorry but I have problems understanding what you are trying to say.

If you are saying they didn't drop out of the NRU group, it is probably because they haven't reached the required postcount yet (a post in the moderation queu is only counted when the post is cleared by moderation IIRC);
If the NRU permission is the only NEVER, then the RU permissions should be in effect.
The easiest way to find out what blocks certain actions is to use the permission mask on those users (compare 1 who can do something with a user who can't
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I was looking at the mask.
the had reached the count (5) and stil the could not edit there profile...
setting the permission from never to no did the trick and they could edit there profile..
its like the RU permission inherit the NRU permission of never.

After changing the NRU permission to NO the now can edit there profile when they have reached the count
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Jesper Møller wrote:
Wed Feb 06, 2019 5:13 pm
its like the RU permission inherit the NRU permission of never.
It doesn't.
Jesper Møller wrote:
Wed Feb 06, 2019 5:13 pm
After changing the NRU permission to NO the now can edit there profile when they have reached the count
So that probably means the user is still in the NRU group.
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if Never isn't inherit why then have that option ??
Wat is the difference of NEVER and NO ?
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Jesper Møller wrote:
Wed Feb 06, 2019 6:59 pm
if Never isn't inherit why then have that option ??
Wat is the difference of NEVER and NO ?
Kevc already explained that
KevC wrote: Regardless of what groups someone is in, if any one of them has a permission set to NEVER, they cannot do that action.

NEVER >> YES >> NO is the permission hierarchy, regardless of group, status, rank, whatever.

If you're not sure of why someone can or can't do something, look them up in the permission masks and it'll show you a full path of their groups and their permissions so you can see where they are being blocked.
a YES overrides a NO, but a NEVER overrides a YES
Since your user is by default a member of 2 groups to start with (RU and NRU) there are 2 settings which play a part. Since the NRU is temporary you can use that to block any unwanted permissions until they have passed the criterium (number of posts - approved).
If your NRU group has a NO, it won't have effect, because of the YES in the RU

Edited: because [quote = Kevc] with the colours and the bold gave some strange results
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Thanks warmweer
that was wat i ment by inherit (Overule other groups permission)
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If you genuinely think it's not behaving properly, post the mask trace so we can see the result and explain it to you.
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