What Is Your Attitude Towards Styles And Future phpBB Upgrades?

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Re: What Is Your Attitude Towards Styles And Future phpBB Upgrades?

Post by Gumboots » Wed Nov 06, 2019 10:51 pm

Hanakin wrote:
Wed Nov 06, 2019 7:58 pm
This is something that we are looking to make easier going forward with 4.0 and chameleon which will break the style up into smaller more maintainable pieces.
Obviously this is getting into personal preference, but I've been finding that 3.2.x is already what I would regard as "fragmented". This applies to both CSS and markup. Sure, it's a logical structure and sure, it is probably easily maintainable from a team perspective (an important consideration). It's also going to be fine for anyone who only wants to change a few colours here and there (the separation of a colours.css is useful for that).

However, it does get to be a bit of a nuisance if you want to get more adventurous, because in those cases it will often force you to work across multiple files to deal with changing one element. You could argue that anyone that adventurous can always amalgamate declarations to their heart's content for testing, which is true, but nonetheless I would be asking how much fragmentation is actually optimal and necessary.

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Re: What Is Your Attitude Towards Styles And Future phpBB Upgrades?

Post by Dan Stylez » Wed Nov 06, 2019 11:22 pm

david63 wrote:
Wed Nov 06, 2019 7:11 pm
Dan Stylez wrote:
Wed Nov 06, 2019 5:33 pm
will most likely be the end for Prosilver.
And if the whole process is not handled correctly it could be the end for phpBB - just my opinion.
How do you mean?

I'm thinking that some of the older admins who installed phpBB and have kept the default style all these years as a lot do and their members may find the overhauled layout daunting, get ready for phpbb-3-refugees ;)

Extensions dev's will probably have a big job of updating and getting them all to function with the new system too.
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Re: What Is Your Attitude Towards Styles And Future phpBB Upgrades?

Post by Mulsiphix » Thu Nov 07, 2019 9:12 am

Christian 2.0 wrote:
Wed Nov 06, 2019 8:03 pm
Well, the update from 3.2.6 -> 3.2.7 contained a security update that addressed a vulnerability. Due to the nature of the fix, template changes were needed to add additional form data to the front-end.
EA117 wrote:
Wed Nov 06, 2019 8:17 pm
When I think of "expected issues for a style which hasn't been updated", it's not "the style will be completely borked", but rather that the style will not have support for events which had been introduced, or minor fixes to things like link targets or parameter quoting, etc.
Hmm... well that is good to know. It seems I can ditch the idea that I won't have to mess with my style for super long periods of time. As long as I don't have to invest massive amounts of time (like I am while building the style I am using now), I'm really not worried about it. Thanks for mentioning this ;) .

But if you already have a version that is compatible with 3.2.7 then I don't think keeping it updated yourself would be beyond you.

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Wed Nov 06, 2019 8:24 pm
But if you already have a version that is compatible with 3.2.7 then I don't think keeping it updated yourself would be beyond you.
A big part of my time investment so far has been getting acquainted with phpBB, CSS, and HTML again. I spent yesterday taking stock of what I had really done to the style and what I truly needed out of a style. My biggest concern, for the future, has been about potential time investment. And I definitely could have saved plenty of time, had I known what I know now, back when I started three weeks ago.

So for now I'll be sticking with Basic. And given how minimal this design is becoming, I could probably make other styles look pretty darn close with less work next time around. So, all things considered, I don't think I am so worried about this anymore.


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Re: What Is Your Attitude Towards Styles And Future phpBB Upgrades?

Post by Christian 2.0 » Thu Nov 07, 2019 12:40 pm

Mulsiphix wrote:
Thu Nov 07, 2019 9:12 am
@Everyone Here
I am very grateful and thankful to everyone who has given me feedback. This conversation has brought me great relief and restored my confidence. Thank you very much for your time, expertise, and kindness :D
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