ToonArmy wrote:You realise Google's algorithms are a lot cleverer than this and I they have provisions in place for sites that try to boost ratings through mass distributed link stuffing. Sure you can gain increases in rankings but nothing is fool proof, do you really think Google 'thinks' 'gee this website must be really good' because somebody linked to it 10 times on the same page? Any how there is no real point in discussion Google's algorithms, we don't know what they do, and we are only basing our arguments on observations.
Go to google. Type this ... "wow gold". Take any of the top resulting pages (I'll use example.com but you switch it with any of the top sites).
Next type "link:example.com"
There you go ToonArmy, you're all set now. Now you know exactly what google's algorithms do. In case it doesn't make sense, its showing the top 10 sites selling wow gold are 100% (not 99.9%) lifted to their status through spam, hundreds of thousands of spam links. Now you know that google really does say "gee this website must be really good because people link to it". Now you know that google doesn't penalize any website who spams, they reward it ... in fact they are the only ones rewarded.
This is why I posted in the first place, nobody understands why spammers spam. If you outright refuse to believe google gives benefits to spammers then you can't even begin a proper truthful discussion on the topic.
ToonArmy wrote:As you have said its not the only option, but instead you choose the unethical one. The one that ruins the freedom of the Web and introduces the need to police it.
Not here to justify myself, I posted for your benefit not mine.
ToonArmy wrote:"pretty much" huh?!? And what percentage is that wage of your total earnings?
Hmmm, I probably make 50 times more than the average filipino. But I'm relatively new, I expect that to increase.
ToonArmy wrote:Yeah but 60 hours a week behind a computer is not healthy, especially if you do not have a decent working environment.
Not exactly sure why you'd guess she has an undecent working environment. The average American spends 40 hours in front of the boob toob. She is boarded in my house and its a nice house, alot better than the one she used to live in. Her water she bathes in is treated, unlike the water from the provinces that give you horrible skin infections. She eats whatever she wants to eat whenever, takes breaks, has fun, chats with guys online to find an American husband. She's best friends with my future wife, they go out fun shopping and to the malls all the time, I'm sure if she felt like she was being abused I'd be hearing about it. I'm 37 and I've been in front of a computer for 12+ hours every day for the last 20 years and I can't say my health is any worse for it.
ToonArmy wrote:No you are just unethical and a right pain in the ****. You reap huge rewards for very little effort on your own part, especially compared to honest jobs in developed country, and especially compared to what your workers earn.
As far as huge rewards for "little effort", thats the American dream is it not? Except I work hard hehe, at least 12 hours every day. Not sure what the ratio of my wages vs theirs has anything to do with anything, would you have been happy if I only made 20% more than they do?
Whether or not its unethical is debatable ... I tried showing everyone a little bit of the other side of things. Would everyone feel less bad about spam if they knew it was feeding a family that otherwise wouldn't be getting fed? Obviously some wouldn't care.
ToonArmy wrote:I do wonder why you don't do this in the United States of America? Is it because you would be locked up? Doesn't that say something?
My fiancee (soon to be married) is from the Philippines. I moved here about a year ago to help get through the current worldwide financial depression. Money spends here about 10 times better than the US, food is 1/10th the price, housing is 1/10th the price, etc. My salary is comparable to a US professional, it spends 10 times better than that though.
I did that here, I posted COMPLETELY on topic, my links were COMPLETELY on topic, but they deleted my links. Were my links defined as spam, when they were on topic? I don't think so. Posting links to your website is what alot of the internet is all about. Every day people post millions of messages on other people's sites to their own sites, its condoned and encouraged if its on topic. I contributed alot of unique content to this thread, don't I deserve a link? I think I do, the admin thinks I don't, fine. Am I running to the Philippines hiding scared I'll go to jail because I tried to get that link? Oh please, lol.
ToonArmy wrote:Recognise what patterns exactly?
A good example of this is the google link earlier in the thread, showing all the pages spammed to by that one account. When I see something like that, I say to myself "I have just identified 37k forums that are easily spammed to". I found this particular page by searching for "phpbb wow gold" ... identifying various phpbb sites that already have wow spam (if they already have spam, and the spam has lasted long enough to remain in google, that means spamming there is more profitable because chances are, the spam will last longer without being deleted).
ToonArmy wrote:Cheers, confirmed what I always thought. You are motivated by pure greed, nothing more nothing less. But that is human nature.
Again I'm not here to justify myself. I posted to this thread because there were dozens of people pondering about wow gold spammers, why they do it and what to do about them. Just thought people would like some insight as to the why
Ok thats enough of my quality time for you all, I'm not used to spending so much time crafting quality content and insightful posts without the ability to receive a link out of it. I won't be back to read or respond to posts, hope everyone found it insightful but I've got work to do. See ya.