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EXreaction wrote:/me wonders what will happen to MySQL
The same thing that happened when Sun aquired MySQL? ;)

From another PCWorld article (note the item underlined):
[b]a merger that happens once in a big blue sun[/b] wrote:Another feather in IBM's hat will be that it will get MySQL, the enormously popular database manager. When Sun bought MySQL, I thought it was the best move the company had ever made. I was wrong.

Sun mishandled its new acquisition. MySQL's top programmers left. MySQL's founder and still Sun CTO for its MySQL division, Michael 'Monty' Widenius said publicly that the GA (general availability) version of MySQL 5.1 was filled with bugs.

With the right management, say IBM's DB2 division, though, MySQL should still be a star. MySQL is the DBMS (database management system) of Web 2.0 businesses such as Twitter, Facebook, and WordPress.
I think the question is, can we trust IBM to develop MySQL?
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Hopefully something a lot better than what happened when Sun acquired MySQL. :mrgreen:
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I think IBM would probably be most interested in Sun's large clients. Large clients are cash cows when they want enterprise level support of proprietary systems (there may be open solaris, but try getting a server spec sparc from anyone other than Sun).
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EXreaction wrote:Hopefully something a lot better than what happened when Sun acquired MySQL. :mrgreen:
What about Open-Office?
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A_O_C wrote:I think the question is, can we trust IBM to develop MySQL?
I do. ;)
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So what is the latest news? Did it happen?

I think it wouldn't be a problem. If they want to keep the market of MySQL and OpenOffice, then they wouldn't mess up the current plan and feature Sun did in the past
IBM, why not? Actually if you notice IBM had another office product similar to OpenOffice --> IBM Lotus Symphony
I am using IBM Lotus Symphony, the only two problems are 1) loading, start up is very slow, sometime even crash my pc 2) the dictionary detection is so bad....

well I am still using the first release version, i didn't check if there is any newer version of IBM Lotus Symphony
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Things like this tend to take a long time. IBM has to go through all kinds of info from Sun, like client contracts and all that good stuff.
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Not that I'm holding a grudge or anything ( :mrgreen: ), but IBM managed the extraordinary feat of driving OS/2 right smack into the ground. Anything's possible.
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SamG wrote:Not that I'm holding a grudge or anything ( :mrgreen: ), but IBM managed the extraordinary feat of driving OS/2 right smack into the ground. Anything's possible.
OS/2? You mean the thing mentioned in the BIOS about memory limits?


(yes, I know what OS/2 is :P)
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SamG wrote:Not that I'm holding a grudge or anything ( :mrgreen: ), but IBM managed the extraordinary feat of driving OS/2 right smack into the ground. Anything's possible.
well, that was a short drive. os/2 wasn't much of an operating system to begin with.


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Really? From what i remember, it kick started the whole 32bit O/S thing. Only downfall was driver support and being more expensive. It's an interesting read ;)
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From my point of view (shared by many Warp users at the time), one of the chief crimes committed by IBM was ambivalence toward its own OS. Only a fraction of IBM PCs ever came loaded with OS/2. Naturally, that resulted in a lack of enthusiasm by software vendors. Relying on Warp's Windows support on the application front made it harder to justify OS/2 deployment at all.

Windows 3 was all the rage on the OEM front. Some productivity software developers had gotten burned in the then recent past with niche markets -- WordPerfect on the Atari ST being a notable example of a bad experience all around. What was needed was a definitive signal by IBM of its commitment to its own product line, which simply wasn't there.

So, IMHO, IBM just botched the job at almost every marketing and strategic opportunity. A superior OS to Windows 3 (almost never BSODed, for example) by any reasonable measure of the time got shot in the foot. IBM proved no match for Microsoft on the strategic and marketing fronts (who actually managed to benefit from OS/2 development). It didn't have to be that way, I don't think.
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I looked into OS/2 a few years ago...
but i thought this project is at "discontinued" status, isn't it?
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jwxie wrote:i thought this project is at "discontinued" status, isn't it?
I think that's correct. But last time I checked there was still a very active user base. And just two years ago I had bidders on the last of my OS/2 stuff on eBay. I don't remember where the bidding ended, but the fact that anybody bought it at all means something, I think.

My point in bringing up OS/2 is that those who have some concerns about an IBM acquisition of Sun probably have adequate reason to be concerned.
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