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Re: The end of facebook coming?

Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2011 3:24 pm
by John T. Folden
Erik Frèrejean wrote:
Google really should focus on developing new technologies rather than trying to limp behind popular services and jump on the wagon when it's to late.
...and something similar was said of FaceBook when MySpace was all the rage. Now MySpace is being sold off for a mere $35M. The end will come to FB, as well, however there will be no celebrating because there will also be something to replace it.

Re: The end of facebook coming?

Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2011 9:22 pm
by keith10456
Erik Frèrejean wrote:... Google really should focus on developing new technologies rather than trying to limp behind popular services and jump on the wagon when it's to late.
Google can't give-up on social because they need the social data to help make search results more personal and relevant.

Re: The end of facebook coming?

Posted: Sat Jul 02, 2011 8:12 pm
by RobertRock
I feel Google social will never be popular. Everybody is looking for privacy what google dont offer in this state. May one day this will change but a social network like Facebook will always exist.

Re: The end of facebook coming?

Posted: Sat Jul 02, 2011 11:20 pm
by John T. Folden
RobertRock wrote:I feel Google social will never be popular. Everybody is looking for privacy what google dont offer in this state. May one day this will change but a social network like Facebook will always exist.
There are constant privacy concerns with Facebook. I'm not sure why anyone would trust them over Google. It would surely be a mistake to do so.

Re: The end of facebook coming?

Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2011 7:14 am
by nGBeast
I'm still waiting for a invite :(

Re: The end of facebook coming?

Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2011 4:06 pm
by itayxD
No chance facebook is going down for that people are used to facebook and people use what they use to.

Re: The end of facebook coming?

Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2011 4:10 pm
by ownlc
ckwalsh wrote:Facebook isn't going anywhere soon. No matter what Google releases, 400+ million users won't disappear overnight. Unless Google was able to find a killer app that improves over Facebook's product, I bet it will never reach Facebook's size.

People have been saying "The end of Facebook is near" since early on. First it was news feed; then the redesign; then privacy issues; then Dispora; then Quit Facebook Day. Each time was overhyped and nothing came of it.

Overall, I find the whole "down with Facebook!", "Facebook is evil", and "Facebook is selling your data" conspiracies incredibly amusing and stupid.
The truth of the matter is that Google is not really "social" in the way FB is. Additionally it requires that you have a Google account and creating a gmail account just for this purpose does not appeal to persons. A more open platform would be more attractive but G also wants to push it mail product. To be honest I am bored with Facebook. For me it is like a broken record; doing the same things over and over. Additionally it lacks intellectual appeal; too many "useless comments"..it is pathetic. I do use it now an then to check with family, so that that it has outlived its usefulness. Twitter does appeal to me more. If Facebook goes I will not miss it.

Re: The end of facebook coming?

Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2011 10:10 am
by Erik Frèrejean
keith10456 wrote:
Erik Frèrejean wrote:... Google really should focus on developing new technologies rather than trying to limp behind popular services and jump on the wagon when it's to late.
Google can't give-up on social because they need the social data to help make search results more personal and relevant.
s/search/advertisement

I fail to see how search results can be made more "relevant" based upon my Google+ friends. If I search phpBB I want to get this site, what happens if I have a lot of vB users in my Google+ friends will google start to push vB as top result :P.
ownlc wrote:The truth of the matter is that Google is not really "social" in the way FB is. Additionally it requires that you have a Google account and creating a gmail account just for this purpose does not appeal to persons. A more open platform would be more attractive but G also wants to push it mail product.
Which is why I think they'll fail with this in the same way they failed with buzz and wave (anyone recall any of those? ;)).
I'm sorry, lets begin a facebook clone which will replace facebook but only the first "x" users can sign up all others must wait for an invitation :?

Re: The end of facebook coming?

Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2011 3:51 pm
by keith10456
Why is Facebook advertising so successful (they recently passed Yahoo in sales)? Its because they have all of its users social/private data.

Have you ever ran an Ad on Facebook? I've done it... You can pretty much narrow it down to the exact market you want (geographically, age, race, income, tastes, etc). And to be honest, its rather impressive - if not a bit scary.

They can sell Ads the way they do because of the social data they have. Google want to be able to do the same thing with their Ad business.

Re: The end of facebook coming?

Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2011 4:28 am
by Erik Frèrejean
Advertising no doubt, though I was talking about search as you suggested in that post.

Re: The end of facebook coming?

Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2011 3:15 pm
by keith10456
Erik Frèrejean wrote:Advertising no doubt, though I was talking about search as you suggested in that post.
You're right... I stand corrected ;) I should have been more clear as to my point.

Re: The end of facebook coming?

Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2011 8:01 pm
by user00
Facebook, is losing ground against Twitter for companies, more a more serious social mean, and it will do against Google+ more complete.

I wouldn't go to the public offering, unless shorting. Hotmail is the mirror, it offered a new and successful mean of communication, free, but easy to copy, and ended up bought by Microsoft and integrated in MSN.

Re: The end of facebook coming?

Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2011 8:37 pm
by wGEric
Erik Frèrejean wrote:I fail to see how search results can be made more "relevant" based upon my Google+ friends. If I search phpBB I want to get this site, what happens if I have a lot of vB users in my Google+ friends will google start to push vB as top result :P.
Instead of only using keywords and back links to rank results they can use people actually voting for the site by pushing +1 or sharing it within Google Plus. I highly doubt Google will make it so that vB can show as the top result when searching for phpBB (although vB is paying for ads when searching for phpBB so it is at the top).

Another aspect is if I'm searching for something on Google I can see what my friends have +1'd. If I see that they +1'd the site then I know that site is probably a good site.
Erik Frèrejean wrote:I'm sorry, lets begin a facebook clone which will replace facebook but only the first "x" users can sign up all others must wait for an invitation :?
Ever heard of Gmail? That was invitation only at the beginning. With their failures with Buzz it probably is a good idea to limit who can access the site so that if there are problems it doesn't affect very many people. Google+ actually had a problem recently where it was sending out the same email notifications for a period of time.

Re: The end of facebook coming?

Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2011 6:20 pm
by wGEric
Here is what Dhanji R. Prasanna a former Wave team member thinks: http://rethrick.com/#google-plus

Here is the last paragraph which sums up his point. The whole article is worth reading though.
With those caveats in place however, I predict that while Google+ will not usurp the throne from facebook per se, it will instead grow into a strong, competitive player and much-needed alternative. Much as Chrome has with IE. Where facebook has the larger, but no-longer dominant share. I predict that when this game is done playing, there will be no more thrones.

Re: The end of facebook coming?

Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2011 7:27 pm
by Haydendiego
It is true facebook days are numbered. Because Google+ is now being introduced in market. Google+ is also a social networking site because people prefers the newest in the market. And when Google+ is fully launched and partially it is introduced when it is fully introduced in the market it doesn't have to pass from introduction stage as it is Google's site. Then people refuses to accept it as a best social networking site.