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Re: Facebook is using PunBB?

Post by Tom » Fri Nov 12, 2010 12:47 am

Erik Frèrejean wrote:
Peetra wrote:FB-devs are probably not getting paid that much. :/
I honestly don't think that this is the case, seeing that google gives all its employees a 10% raise to try to prevent them from moving to other companies (including facebook) ;)
With promotions like these, who wouldn't want to develop for Facebook? ;)
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Re: Facebook is using PunBB?

Post by samengland » Fri Nov 12, 2010 1:05 am

I know for a fact that working in sales at Facebook is very well paid - and developers are most probably paid a lot more.

You might find more explanation as to why Facebook use punbb here.

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Re: Facebook is using PunBB?

Post by ckwalsh » Fri Nov 12, 2010 5:14 am

Peetra wrote:FB-devs are probably not getting paid that much. :/
I can guarantee this is not the case.

Per the topic, at the moment Facebook has absolutely no reason to switch from PunBB; It works for what it's designed to do. I certainly would prefer that they used phpBB, but their devs are busy working on other projects.
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Re: Facebook is using PunBB?

Post by wadie » Fri Nov 12, 2010 3:10 pm

But why would they choose PunBB ?

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Re: Facebook is using PunBB?

Post by Erik Frèrejean » Fri Nov 12, 2010 3:33 pm

Ask the facebook devs? AFAIK they haven't informed us on their choice ;). Most likely because they feel that PunBB fits their needs the best and can be deployed in their system without many changes.
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Re: Facebook is using PunBB?

Post by wadie » Fri Nov 12, 2010 4:26 pm

ohh well I thought you guys would know why.. :roll:

All I know is that phpBB the best for message boards. not sure what was their choice based on.

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Re: Facebook is using PunBB?

Post by Ephemeraboy » Sat Nov 13, 2010 5:19 am

maybe punBB is lighter than any software..??

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Re: Facebook is using PunBB?

Post by Danielx64 » Mon Nov 15, 2010 1:31 am

Ephemeraboy wrote:maybe punBB is lighter than any software..??
That too, but you also got MyBB as well.

Sony converted one of their forums over to facebook groups and it is crap. They were using a very outdated version 2 of IP.Board

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Re: Facebook is using PunBB?

Post by Ephemeraboy » Mon Nov 15, 2010 12:39 pm

*Daniel wrote:
Ephemeraboy wrote:maybe punBB is lighter than any software..??
That too, but you also got MyBB as well.

Sony converted one of their forums over to facebook groups and it is crap. They were using a very outdated version 2 of IP.Board
it's better for them don't use IPB 3 IMO
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Re: Facebook is using PunBB?

Post by Danielx64 » Mon Nov 15, 2010 10:21 pm

Ephemeraboy wrote:
*Daniel wrote:
Ephemeraboy wrote:maybe punBB is lighter than any software..??
That too, but you also got MyBB as well.

Sony converted one of their forums over to facebook groups and it is crap. They were using a very outdated version 2 of IP.Board
it's better for them don't use IPB 3 IMO
the heaviest forum software

Wow, at lease I'm not the only one to think that IPB 3 is the heaviest paid software around.

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Re: Facebook is using PunBB?

Post by vortexhlp » Sun Nov 28, 2010 7:29 am

I don't know anything about PunBB but they might have better liabilities, or perhaps there is a lot less going on and the less goes on the better it is for the world's 3rd most popular website in the world. phpBB is very generalized and it has a lot of features that many forums don't need. PunBB might be very dumb-down and because of this, there is less risk involved with hackers.

The more you add to your site, the more likely your site can get hacked, and while phpBB has a pretty decent backbone when it comes to security, it is a big application and a lot would have to be modified to be dumb-down to what Facebook needs it for. I know when I was first building my site I tried all sorts of CMS but all of them were generalized so I went with codeigniter. I almost decided to build my own forum but I figured I would go with phpBB instead since I know very little about security haha!

Bottom line: less features means less bandwidth needed and better security.

Well, that's what I think about the subject.

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Re: Facebook is using PunBB?

Post by Phil » Sun Nov 28, 2010 8:30 pm

vortexhlp wrote:Bottom line: less features means less bandwidth needed and better security.
That isn't entirely true at all. A well-written application on top of a solid security framework can be secure no matter the number of features; similarly, a very niche-specific tool can be the most insecure tool in the world if it pays no attention to security.

While Facebook undoubtedly had some reasoning behind selecting PunBB, I would be very surprised if security were their primary objective (phpBB3 actually has a better record at Secunia than PunBB does).
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Re: Facebook is using PunBB?

Post by 3Di » Sun Nov 28, 2010 8:43 pm

Why not to inform those there at facebook about that? I will be more than happy to read their answers. :ugeek:

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Re: Facebook is using PunBB?

Post by vortexhlp » Sun Nov 28, 2010 10:51 pm

Phil wrote:
vortexhlp wrote:Bottom line: less features means less bandwidth needed and better security.
That isn't entirely true at all. A well-written application on top of a solid security framework can be secure no matter the number of features; similarly, a very niche-specific tool can be the most insecure tool in the world if it pays no attention to security.

While Facebook undoubtedly had some reasoning behind selecting PunBB, I would be very surprised if security were their primary objective (phpBB3 actually has a better record at Secunia than PunBB does).
This is the first time I hear about Secunia, is there a place where I can find out about the vulnerabilities of phpbb or is that kept secret (I would hope so lol)? I hear the admin panel has a lot of holes in it which is why phpBB is commonly hacked (though being one of the most popular one isn't exactly helping either). Incidentally I have more faith in phpBB's security than any other commercial or non-commercial forum. :)

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Re: Facebook is using PunBB?

Post by Erik Frèrejean » Sun Nov 28, 2010 10:58 pm

phpBB doesn't have any known (un patched) security issues anywhere. I don't know where you've heard:
vortexhlp wrote:I hear the admin panel has a lot of holes in it which is why phpBB is commonly hacked
but these "sources" would do well to report a security report if there indeed is an issue. Although usually if phpBB gets hacked its through a third party piece of software running on the same server or issues on the server itself. phpBB hardly is the actual entry point.
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