This is a very
Lumpy Burgertushie wrote: ↑
Tue Mar 13, 2018 5:52 pm
there are a couple of extensions here to add a hosting service link to the posting page.
check them out.
Oooh! So an external hosting service can be sort of integrated into phpBB? That sounds great
I'm having a bit of trouble figuring out how to get the search system to help me search the Extensions
page on the Customisations Database. I keep seeing what looks a bit like a forum topic.
I think I'll have to do a manual search, but there are 297 extensions to look through. Do you know what subsection they might be in? Would this sort of extension count as "Tools"?
Is there any way of seeing what the user experience of different extensions is going to look/feel like without needing to download and install them?
david63 wrote: ↑
Tue Mar 13, 2018 7:08 pm
The problem with any hosting service for images/files is that they are liable to disappear overnight, or change their T&C's, and everything is then lost.
If the issue is with space then I would suggest that the long term solution is to buy/acquire more space and host the files yourself.
We have had vanishing images on the forum I help administer.
be possible to find the original images on a Wayback Machine copy of a topic with broken images, but I can't think of any way to automate the process of looking for broken images...and automate the recovery of pictures from the Wayback Machine (if they have them).
We are currently looking into the option of hosting images ourselves, but I don't think we have the space. (Our hosting package only gives us 2 GB and at the moment, we are trying to work out if we even have the space to rebuild our search index.
Mick wrote: ↑
Wed Mar 14, 2018 11:08 am
I’ve just seen a ‘proper’ host has a package free for the first year with 25gb of storage. Somebody asked the question how many images can you store with 25gb, I figure this is guesstimated as it’s relative but this was the reply:
100 hours of video
125,000 Word Documents
25,000 PowerPoint Presentations
For a few dollars you can increase the storage available. I think 7,000 images is enough to be getting on with, it can always be bumped up at a later date.
I paid for a 2 GB phpBB hosting package, for three years, but it looks like I need to move over to something like this later. Our hosting company has options to upgrade to 5 GB and 10 GB, but that's it.
I'm trying to work out what sort of split expansion in forum posts vs expansion in uploaded images would happen. Your stats look very helpful.
I'll have to have a look at the documentation to see how much control I can have on things like attachment types. Ideally, we would want to limit most users to only posting images, without preventing us from allowing moderators or admins from uploading other documents. (I guess we could probably find another way to upload stuff other than images, if it was just a few people doing that.)
KYPREO wrote: ↑
Thu Mar 15, 2018 3:14 am
Host it yourself. Whatever size requirements you have scales with the popularity/size of your board. Even if you expect a few hundred images, we're only talking about 10-20MB based on average image size of 100kb. This is easy to achieve with plupload and sensible image size limits in the ACP.
We have had attachments enabled on our board since 2007. In that time we have amassed over 42,000 attachments but this only takes up a bit over 4GB. On my host every additional gigabyte only costs US$0.50 per month so it's a minimal expenditure. And that is for a very large board with generous image size limits (1440px wide images). F
It sounds like your forum makes for a very useful case study!
I'll have to have a look at your forums, to see what the user experience is like there. The forum I help look after started in 2008, so I'm guessing there would be a similar user experience if we had done what you have done (if we had similar levels of traffic to you).
It sounds like you have a great hosting provider there. I think I'm going to be locked down to my own hosting company for the next two and a half years (and I don't have the energy to try migrating to another server in the near future) but it looks like I'll have to make up a checklist of things to look for in a phpBB host.
KYPREO wrote: ↑
Thu Mar 15, 2018 3:14 am
The risk and consequences of third party hosts taking down user's photos or holding them to ransom cannot be understated - this had catastrophic consequences for users on my board with 40 page topics full of images completely destroyed. Best to control the images yourself and encourage your users to use it.
The server load can be managed to a large degree through use of thumbnails & lightbox, limits limiting image attachment size and the numbers of attachments per post. You can also set locally hosted images to cache with very long expiry periods as well as compression.
We have got unlimited bandwidth, but it doesn't make sense to have pages grinding to a halt if a user puts a ton of massive pictures in a single topic. I'll have to try to find out how your thumbnails work.
What does the lightbox do? I thought that was just about having a black screen around an image? How does that cut down on server load? Do people have to click on thumbnails to surf over to a lightbox for each picture? (I see a "Thumbnails" option in the ACP, but not a "Lightbox" option. Is it an extension?)
I thought that image caching was just something that end-users had control over. Can image caching be set in the ACP? Or do I have to use something else (like .htaccess) to control image caching?