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FOX news: Are they really that biased?

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I tried to google some answers about FOX. Why is it considered so biased and not trusted? Cam someone explain? (provide me with examples please)
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It's not just Fox News. ;)

Many people, even those in the mainstream media, view Fox, CNN, MSNBC, etc as being very partisan. In general, the media is viewed as being very liberal (conspiracy or not), while Fox News is often viewed as being conservative. This causes most liberals to distrust Fox News and assume that the channel is more biased than the likes of CNN an others.
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Here you can browse a couple of stories:
http://mediamatters.org/archives/search ... &go=Search
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Re: FOX news: Are they really that biased?

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lifesavvy wrote: I tried to google some answers about FOX. Why is it considered so biased and not trusted? Cam someone explain? (provide me with examples please)

There are those that will ask the same thing about any network. Just replace FOX with CNN, CBS, etc.

If you're a liberal, you're more likely to call Fox biased. If you're a conservative, you'll call CBS and CNN biased.
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I don't really care about politics or anything, but just looking at Fox news it seems like the "MTV" of news channels :lol:
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Natan wrote:
lifesavvy wrote:I tried to google some answers about FOX. Why is it considered so biased and not trusted? Cam someone explain? (provide me with examples please)

There are those that will ask the same thing about any network. Just replace FOX with CNN, CBS, etc.

If you're a liberal, you're more likely to call Fox biased. If you're a conservative, you'll call CBS and CNN biased.

So it's impossible for FOXNews to actually be more biased than other channels? You rule out that possibility without even bothering to seriously examine it? Why?

FOXNews has repeatedly aired the views of Ann Coulter, whose views are so radical that she makes Michael Moore and Bill O'Reilly seem like two of the most reasonable people on Earth. The Hannity and Colmes show is a joke, where a centrist who barely gets any airtime anyway is pitted against a full-blown flag-waving hard-right Republican party-line pusher.

And what of facts like this?
wrote: The numbers show an overwhelming slant on Fox towards both Republicans and conservatives. Of the 56 partisan guests on Special Report between January and May, 50 were Republicans and six were Democrats -- a greater than 8 to 1 imbalance. In other words, 89 percent of guests with a party affiliation were Republicans.

On Special Report, 65 of the 92 guests (71 percent) were avowed conservatives--that is, conservatives outnumbered representatives of all other points of view, including non-political guests, by a factor of more than 2 to 1. While FAIR did not break down the non-conservative guests by ideology, there were few avowed liberals or progressives among the small non-conservative minority; instead, there was a heavy emphasis on centrist and center-right pundits (David Gergen, Norman Ornstein, Lou Dobbs) and politicians (Sen. John Breaux, Sen. Bob Graham, Rep. Christopher Shays).

As a comparison, FAIR also studied the one-on-one newsmaker interviews on CNN's Wolf Blitzer Reports over the same time period, and found a modest but significant tilt towards Republicans, and a disproportionate minority of guests who were conservatives--but in both cases, there was far more balance than was found on Special Report.

Of Blitzer's 67 partisan guests, 38 were Republicans and 29 were Democrats -- a 57 percent to 43 percent split in favor of Republicans. Thirty-five out of 109 guests (32 percent) were avowed conservatives, with the remaining 68 percent divided up among the rest of the political spectrum, from center-right to left.

FOXNews tries really hard to convince you that they're 'fair and balanced". To me, this is like a salesmen who expends a great deal of effort trying to convince you he's honest. The harder he tries, the more suspicious you should be. And when you look at the facts, lo and behold, they don't match the claims.
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Hey, whatever anyone says I still like to think the mainstream media (i.e. The New York Times) is not biased.
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FOX seems conservative to me, other news services are liberal. I'm just glad there's a news service representing the OTHER side. I love FOX news.
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FOX seems conservative to me, other news services are liberal.


I think what best carachterises other news stations is, that they are not (as) conservative. For some people this seems to be equal to "they are liberal", even though that IMHO is not an adequate description.
Just keep following the Daily Howler ( www.dailyhowler.com ) for a while, and you'll find that just about everyday the mainstream media misrepresents or misreports issues, which makes them seem incompetent, but hardly any of their errors benefit liberals, some even are very counterproductive.
I cannot remember errors FOX made, that were counterproductive to conservative interests or that were even beneficial to liberals.
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subnet_rx wrote: FOX seems conservative to me, other news services are liberal. I'm just glad there's a news service representing the OTHER side. I love FOX news.

I see you either didn't bother reading what I posted, or didn't care. No wonder you love FOXNews. This is the problem with the current political climate in America; if you are not unfairly biased toward the right, you are perceived as "liberal". CNN is not "liberal"; CNN is in the middle. But for black/white thinkers, there is no middle, is there?

The very word "liberal" has virtually become an insult in America right now, sort of like "socialist". People often dismiss arguments and ideas simply by labelling them as such, without having to explain what is actually wrong with them.
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I don’t really watch the news anymore. I usually listen or read it. When I did watch it I watched I watched MSNBC. I am considered “liberal” but I can promise you MSNBC favored the right way more. Even CNN seems fairer than Fox. Fox is horrible. Bill Oreilly show AKA “The No Spin Zone” is a totally right winged spin from Bill Oreilly. Not to mention the Hannity and Colems show. They match up a hard-headed right-winger with a pathetic push over alien looking left winger. I cant watch either of these shows with out pulling my hair out. I can’t believe people when they think Chris Mathews of Hard Ball is a biased left winger. I honestly never see him agreeing with hardcore left-wingers and do see him agreeing with a lot of right wingers. He gets this title because at the end of the election he happened to agree a little more with Kerry. I know the term “liberal” in politics is different than the dictionary, but I swear most times to not “liberals” are way more open-minded than more conservatives (I’m not talking about hardcore lefties here).

The fact is that Fox advertises as not being biased or one sided. Correct me if im wrong but i dont hear any other new channels using is as there slogon. KEY WORD SLOGON, NOT SAYING OTHER NEWS HAS NEVER SAID IT. Fox lies and give a very short view about how they work.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/
http://www.cnn.com/
http://www.foxnews.com/

if you click on the links the only one having anyhting about being fair or balanced is Fox. Look at the header and footer of the fox page. It shows Image I didnt fully inspect each page of the sites, its 2am i coudl have missed somthing. Maybe its because im a "liberal" and i miss where the other news ads for this but i really never hear it for any other news, atleast not nearly as much.

Im a bad speller so skip past the grammar and spelling.
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People will call any major news station biased if they do not specifically endorse their views. Just tell them to stop whinning. :wink:
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Liberal is used in a much more vicious way than even the word 'Tory' over here, politically, in the States. What makes me laugh is that the US 'Left' are Centre-right if anything.

FOX Biased? Do we expect anything less of the Murdoch empire?
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Jon Reid wrote: Liberal is used in a much more vicious way than even the word 'Tory' over here, politically, in the States. What makes me laugh is that the US 'Left' are Centre-right if anything.

FOX Biased? Do we expect anything less of the Murdoch empire?


Spoken like a true right winger :wink:
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Everyone is biased. Everyone wants everyone else to believe what they believe.

Don’t believe everything you see on any news station. 60 Minuets and 20/20 have both done a show on the company that I work for and less than 10% of it was true.

Believe half of what you read, and less of what you hear.
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