Which, to me, sounds better than 600,000+ having died from CovidChristopher Shilts wrote: ↑Sun Jun 20, 2021 11:23 pm it said 4,263 people in the USA have died after receiving the COVID-19 vaccine
Which, to me, sounds better than 600,000+ having died from CovidChristopher Shilts wrote: ↑Sun Jun 20, 2021 11:23 pm it said 4,263 people in the USA have died after receiving the COVID-19 vaccine
I did just now and I'm not impressed - the article gives me the impression that it's written with a purpose: to downplay the side-effects, and also to emphasise/blow up the (seemingly) positive effect of hydrochloroquine on (prevention of) viral replication (specifically SARS-CoV-2).Christopher Shilts wrote: ↑Sun Jun 20, 2021 11:23 pm Did you read the white paper from America's Frontline Doctors?
That's a can of worms I'm not going to open but I can imagine compulsory PCR testing and/or quarantine (before/after) being required in order to attend certain mass "congregations".Christopher Shilts wrote: ↑Sun Jun 20, 2021 11:23 pm What sort of restrictions on the unvaccinated people's liberties to you believe to be appropriate, and for how long should they be imposed?
What if you know beforehand that you will be the one in a million that will die because of the vaccine? I tell you a secret: you would not want that shot, but instead live life without it, as that is guaranteed to be longer. It's a bit like anaesthesia mortality: the risk is very low, but it's there and you don't want to be that unlucky person - you'd opt to not have the operation if you'd just know beforehand.warmweer wrote: ↑Sat Jun 19, 2021 5:27 pmI've come across those pulp magazine stories.There's a lot of horror stories coming out about various vaccines giving people heart problems if not outright killing them. Much of this news is being actively suppressed, but it keeps leaking out.
However, clinical studies put those"numbers" in perpective and currently the number of deaths due to complications arising from the common cold are much higher that those related to vaccination.
If we knew beforehand that allowing the Covid virus to escape would have the worldwide devastating effect that it has we would have prevented it, but we didn't.
Do you mean Hydroxychloroquine (Chloroquine) the malaria treatment or something else?
No I'm sorry but you are wholly wrong. Nothing was rushed or sped up in the production of these vaccines.Christopher Shilts wrote: ↑Sun Jun 20, 2021 11:23 pm Alright, let's swap experimental out for Emergency Use Authorization This is still a rapidly sped up process.
yep the malaria prevention/treatment, which BTW isn't recommended anymore expect for in certain parts of Africa
True, but if you know you'll be infected by going to a certain place or by performing certain actions, you'll probably not go there or not do what you did.AmigoJack wrote: ↑Mon Jun 21, 2021 8:58 am It's a bit like anaesthesia mortality: the risk is very low, but it's there and you don't want to be that unlucky person - you'd opt to not have the operation if you'd just know beforehand.
People's fear is a natural phenomenon and there's nothing wrong with having fear.AmigoJack wrote: ↑Mon Jun 21, 2021 8:58 amGiven that perspective: can you guys now understand people's fear? There is no guarantee that you don't die from a shot. Comparing this to the chance of getting hit by a car disregards that (in contrast to vaccination) nobody pushes you into crossing the road - you do that on your own will/needs.
There are 4 major types of malaria (and a fifth which has a lower occurrence). All result in bloodcells being destroyed, which, if the parasite gets into the brain or important organs (liver), in many cases is deadly or can cause permanent damage. Plasmodium (the parasite) has developed resistance to chloroquine which is why it's not common as a prophylactic nowadays, there are other prophylactics available (each having their side effects but I prefer those to getting malaria).
To reiterate when citing Covid deaths they need to be weighted. The one woman I know who died from it was elderly and could barely walk, she was on oxygen before falling and breaking a hip. She contracted it afterward in the nursing home. Her life was coming to an end no matter what.david63 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 21, 2021 7:22 amWhich, to me, sounds better than 600,000+ having died from CovidChristopher Shilts wrote: ↑Sun Jun 20, 2021 11:23 pm it said 4,263 people in the USA have died after receiving the COVID-19 vaccine
I care, but I'm done with mask wearing. I am going to follow the CDC guidelines, not the WHO's. I'm vaccinated, and in my area, it's possible to safely end Covid-19 restrictions.