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I reformat everytime I update my OS, so when Tiger comes out, I'll be formatting my Hard Drives...

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MennoniteHobbit wrote: ... IIRC, Linux uses a "similar" Journaling system.

WTF are you talking about? Journalling filesystems such as ReiserFS and ext3 have absolutely nothing to do with the Windows system registry. They're a way of making hard drive access transactional, so you can "roll back" partially finished writes in the event of a hard reset or power failure. They are not remotely related to system configuration data.
AFAIK every OS needs some sort of "registry" to keep track of various apps and info.

Wrong. Linux uses ASCII text files to keep track of its apps and info, just like every other UNIX.
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Darth Wong wrote: ...


Then yeah, I recalled incorrectly and was thinking of something else.
Wrong. Linux uses ASCII text files to keep track of its apps and info, just like every other UNIX.


I quoted "registry" in my post because I was speaking of any generic method to keep track of the information; I didn't give any specifics because I didn't know of any.
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MennoniteHobbit wrote: I quoted "registry" in my post because I was speaking of any generic method to keep track of the information; I didn't give any specifics because I didn't know of any.

Ah, well you see, the Windows registry is unusual because it is not human-readable, unlike the ASCII text configuration files used by UNIX systems. You don't know where your stuff is buried in there, and you certainly won't know what registry keys are necessary in order to do something, unless the Windows people tell you. Contrast this to ASCII configuration files, which are app-specific, generally commented, and easily backed up. Sure, you can back up the whole Windows registry, or certain keys, but what if you don't know where the keys are or what they're called? What if you want to copy this configuration data from one machine to another one, so you can't just copy the whole registry over?
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Are the ASCII text files really easy to manage? Say I want to delete a program and don't want the registry left behind.

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Drunky wrote: Are the ASCII text files really easy to manage? Say I want to delete a program and don't want the registry left behind.


rm -rf
..and please don't use the term "registry" :D Call them dotfiles, or config files. :)

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Darth Wong wrote: Ah, well you see, the Windows registry is unusual because it is not human-readable, unlike the ASCII text configuration files used by UNIX systems. You don't know where your stuff is buried in there, and you certainly won't know what registry keys are necessary in order to do something, unless the Windows people tell you.

I definitely agree with you that the Linux method is simpler to the end user, the irony being that reformats aren't needed as often with Linux anyways.

However, if programs used the registry properly, I do think it would be significantly easier to deal with. Unfortunately everything has a bad tendency to overwrite/delete keys, and put their settings all over the place. Well-written programs store all of their global settings in one key under HKLM, and user settings in one key under each user's HKCU. So it's actually pretty easy to backup your settings for programs that do this properly - Messenger Plus! comes to mind immediately.

Too bad everybody doesn't take a cue from them... ironically, Microsoft is the worst abuser of its own concept.
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lol, i reformat every week :lol:

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saabirsa wrote: lol, i reformat every week :lol:


Im probably on the same time scale, :lol: i have a good spell and a bad spell
every now and then and sometimes i make a couple of months without doing
a format but then i do it just to have the clean start etc.

Mostly you have to understand that i do alot of overclocking and modding
with my computer and files get corrupt etc so i have no alternative some
days, although i dont mind doing it most of the time because my windows
disk is a slipstreamed sp2 disk with some of my favorite programs and
tools already setup to install automaticaly when i format and it's almost
a completely unattended install exept for the F6 install for my sata drivers.

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I format my drive from time too time. Normally if things start getting "odd" on my system or if something stops working right and I feel it would take less time to just format, rather then fix it. I make normal back ups all the time, so it's just as simple as rebooting to a cd of mine and doing a low level format, then reinstall my OS. Whole thing normally takes less about 15min or so to do. Getting a virus is also a reason why I may format. Even if my system was able to clean it, I still just have a peace of mind doing it anyways.

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Formatting hard disk often is not good. I am computer hardware servicer. In my service i noticed that some hard disks damaged after formatting them many times.

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My old pc has a 10gb master drive thats been formated well over 100
times in it's life time and it's still chuggin along nicely, ;) although it's
probably about time i either got rid of it and stuck a bigger one in it
or even got a new pc totaly for my backup things as it's getting a bit
old now.

I think i've had that drive for nearly 6 years so come to think of it i bet
it's been formated and even low level formated a hole lot more than i
can even remember because its used mostly for testing and backups!
and it's not usualy a very happy pc getting all sortsa rubbish thrown at
it all the time and then being overclocked to high heaven and back!
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mandangi wrote: Formatting hard disk often is not good. I am computer hardware servicer. In my service i noticed that some hard disks damaged after formatting them many times.


Low-level formatting is the harsh one. Normal formatting is no different than saving a file, in that 0s are changed to 1s and vice-versa on the magnetic platters.

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Only 1 time since Win XP (Pro) came out: when I got it :)

Before that with 98/Me it was like 2 times a year or so.
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