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Re: The hardest question of all... how do you get new users?

Post by Lumpy Burgertushie » Sat Oct 12, 2013 1:21 pm

lord.nitos wrote:When we all want a new users, we must make our site for users, not for us!

They must feel at our site like in home! :D
very good point!!!


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Re: The hardest question of all... how do you get new users?

Post by Big-Jim » Sat Oct 12, 2013 3:17 pm

lord.nitos wrote:When we all want a new users, we must make our site for users, not for us!

They must feel at our site like in home! :D
I disagree completely with that concept. Now obviously, since this is a forum to discuss forum software, this presupposes the website I create would be a forum. If I spend my time and my money in order to create a website/forum, I would want the website/forum to reflect the ideals that I feel are important and not what others think it should be. If others want to create a website/forum, they have every right to do so and they can set it up and run it any way they choose. But as for myself, I would want my website/forum to be what I want it to be. So if I want it made clear there will be no foul language or pornography posted on the forum, I would post that as one of the main rules. If someone doesn't like that rule, they can leave the site and go elsewhere.

The only time that I believe having a website/forum catered specifically for others would be a good idea, is if it is a paid site. If a paid site is what you have, then by all means, you definitely need to cater specifically to the users because the users are who is paying the bills and making you money. So by all means, do what you need to do to keep the paid members coming back. If that means bending over and kissing their foot, then I guess maybe you will have to do it.

But for most people who have a website/forum, it is not a paid site and the admin is under no obligation to cater to anybody. So to my way of thinking, as long as the website has material/content that is appealing to a large number of people, the website/forum will have a sizable following. In my opinion, CONTENT is the real ticket to getting new members and keeping them, not catering to the whims of others. If a member has a good idea, you may want to implement it, but only if you feel it really IS a good idea and something you would like to do for your forum. But the real key to success is content and as long as you have content that people want and enjoy, they will be back and they will bring their friends with them.

Now obviously, you need to make the site as user friendly as possible. But doing that doesn't mean you have to do whatever a few of the members want. It's your site, set it up and run it the way you want it to be run. I mean, look at your forum like it's your home. In our case, the wife and I don't smoke and because of that we have a rule, we don't allow smoking in our home. If you are a guest in our home, we expect you to NOT smoke in our home. If you wish to smoke, go outside and smoke. As long as you follow the rules, you are more than welcome to come visit us. If you refuse to follow the rules, we will ask you to leave. By the same token, your forum has rules. These are the rules you want followed. Member can stay as long as they follow the rules. If they refuse to do so, ask them to leave. You don't have to cater to their every whim. It's your forum, you created it and you are paying for it. Therefore, you have every right to run it the way you feel is best.

Anyway, that is my opinion for what it is worth. You may agree with me, or you may disagree, but in any case I don't want to start a big debate about it. An opinion is what it is, an opinion.

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Re: The hardest question of all... how do you get new users?

Post by Lumpy Burgertushie » Sat Oct 12, 2013 6:24 pm

well Jim, I agree with you 100%. I did not interpret lord.nitos post to mean any of the things you listed there.

however, unless you just want a board to post on yourself then you have to create one that others will like and be willing to join you in. that means that at some level you have to create and maintain your board for your users, not just for yourself otherwise, what is the point of it.

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Re: The hardest question of all... how do you get new users?

Post by Big-Jim » Sat Oct 12, 2013 10:06 pm

Gee Lumpy, if you agree with me then I must be wrong. :D Only kidding.

I took his post to mean that to get members you need to cater to whatever the users want to do, and I think that is wrong. Really good content is what a forum needs to attract members and keep them. For example, if you have a forum for people who make wooden bowls, and if you have people who post pictures of their equipment as well as some of their projects, then that's a good thing. Another really cool thing is if the "old timers" are willing to take the time to explain to "new members" how to do stuff. When that happens, then anyone interested in making wooden bowls will flock to your site, assuming of course they can find it. But if your content is terrible and nobody wants to help new members with their projects, then I don't care how "flashy/appealing" your forum is, your membership will suffer. There are many forums out there, but to have a successful forum it's the content that counts more than anything.

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Re: The hardest question of all... how do you get new users?

Post by Lumpy Burgertushie » Sat Oct 12, 2013 11:15 pm

yep, ya got it.

that is what I took his comment to mean. If you are providing quality content about your given subject in a format that is easy for your members to access and use then we fit this:
we must make our site for users
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Re: The hardest question of all... how do you get new users?

Post by Jessica » Sun Oct 13, 2013 2:17 am

Big-Jim wrote:
lord.nitos wrote:When we all want a new users, we must make our site for users, not for us!

They must feel at our site like in home! :D
I disagree completely with that concept. Now obviously, since this is a forum to discuss forum software, this presupposes the website I create would be a forum. If I spend my time and my money in order to create a website/forum, I would want the website/forum to reflect the ideals that I feel are important and not what others think it should be. If others want to create a website/forum, they have every right to do so and they can set it up and run it any way they choose. But as for myself, I would want my website/forum to be what I want it to be. So if I want it made clear there will be no foul language or pornography posted on the forum, I would post that as one of the main rules. If someone doesn't like that rule, they can leave the site and go elsewhere.

The only time that I believe having a website/forum catered specifically for others would be a good idea, is if it is a paid site. If a paid site is what you have, then by all means, you definitely need to cater specifically to the users because the users are who is paying the bills and making you money. So by all means, do what you need to do to keep the paid members coming back. If that means bending over and kissing their foot, then I guess maybe you will have to do it.

But for most people who have a website/forum, it is not a paid site and the admin is under no obligation to cater to anybody. So to my way of thinking, as long as the website has material/content that is appealing to a large number of people, the website/forum will have a sizable following. In my opinion, CONTENT is the real ticket to getting new members and keeping them, not catering to the whims of others. If a member has a good idea, you may want to implement it, but only if you feel it really IS a good idea and something you would like to do for your forum. But the real key to success is content and as long as you have content that people want and enjoy, they will be back and they will bring their friends with them.

Now obviously, you need to make the site as user friendly as possible. But doing that doesn't mean you have to do whatever a few of the members want. It's your site, set it up and run it the way you want it to be run. I mean, look at your forum like it's your home. In our case, the wife and I don't smoke and because of that we have a rule, we don't allow smoking in our home. If you are a guest in our home, we expect you to NOT smoke in our home. If you wish to smoke, go outside and smoke. As long as you follow the rules, you are more than welcome to come visit us. If you refuse to follow the rules, we will ask you to leave. By the same token, your forum has rules. These are the rules you want followed. Member can stay as long as they follow the rules. If they refuse to do so, ask them to leave. You don't have to cater to their every whim. It's your forum, you created it and you are paying for it. Therefore, you have every right to run it the way you feel is best.

Anyway, that is my opinion for what it is worth. You may agree with me, or you may disagree, but in any case I don't want to start a big debate about it. An opinion is what it is, an opinion.
I completely agree with this, it should be run the way YOU want it, not users. You make the decisions because you created the board. *nods*

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Re: The hardest question of all... how do you get new users?

Post by Brf » Sun Oct 13, 2013 3:20 pm

This is getting off-topic.
This topic is about how to get new users, not how to run the board the way you want to.

If you want to run your board "my-way", then you do not belong in this topic.

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Re: The hardest question of all... how do you get new users?

Post by naughtynicole » Sun Oct 13, 2013 5:14 pm

content, maybe advertising, and possibly SEO support. You definitely want to get it submitted to search engines

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Re: The hardest question of all... how do you get new users?

Post by lord.nitos » Mon Oct 14, 2013 6:23 pm

I mean, the users is 99% success of our site...

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Re: The hardest question of all... how do you get new users?

Post by Volksdevil » Sat Dec 07, 2013 9:09 pm

I'm starting to (Sadly) sort of admit defeat in the back of my mind. My forum has been around a good while now, although it was initially with Invisionfree before converting to PHPBB.

We used to have a couple thousand users and it used to be nice and busy, but after having moved over to PHPBB and tried to stay up to date as far as social networking integration etc it just doesn't seem to be getting used anymore, and I don't know why :cry:

I've just recently set up a Google plus community that's linked to the forum, but then after having a think about it, that's the problem. There are so many different outlets these days that all the 'Community' of a forum is now fragmented over all these social networks. :cry:

Strangely we do keep getting new members signing up all the time, but nobody really posts anything. Another strange thing is that the forum is considered widely to be one of, if not, the friendliest Vw forum around. All the current members say that...but they always come and go.

So to the original question, in this day and age where there are so many outlets for people to socialise on, how do we keep them coming to our forums to participate and become a part of the community?

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Re: The hardest question of all... how do you get new users?

Post by BBWP » Mon Dec 09, 2013 4:40 pm

it depends on what type of content your site is related to.

if your site is for popular content then people will register more often

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Re: The hardest question of all... how do you get new users?

Post by AmigoJack » Fri Dec 13, 2013 11:47 am

Volksdevil wrote:nobody really posts anything
I never understood the benefits of social networks, unless they're meant to melt different techniques (chat, guestbook, [cork]board, game, lists...) for those who don't care for details.

Having that in mind, bulletin boards' purpose is to exchange/spread information, mainly textually. Since nowadays a lot of access happens on mobile devices my understanding is, that those users just simply don't have the ability to type a lot, if anything at all - I'd expect them to favor buttons to click on (speak: hit a "like" instead of actually typing that you like it and why).

While making a board style compatible to mobile devices it can't help on the device's possibilities of typing text. If that is a culprit, a solution would be to have more non-textual interaction options for everybody to create content.

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Re: The hardest question of all... how do you get new users?

Post by Volksdevil » Fri Dec 13, 2013 4:59 pm

I think you have hit the nail on the head there AmigoJack.

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Re: The hardest question of all... how do you get new users?

Post by thatgamesguy » Thu Feb 06, 2014 10:21 pm

Another popular method to get your forum up and running although some people may be against this is to participate in post exchanges. Where you post X amounts of posts on someone else's forum and they do the same for you. This is an effective method to get your board up and running in very early stages.
I would like to try this, where can you find people willing, or get an invite? I don't see why people would be against it, its nothing different than a club. You could also get ideas and suggestions from all the participants.

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Re: The hardest question of all... how do you get new users?

Post by Helixagon » Wed Feb 12, 2014 4:09 am

I've had a fair bit of luck with allowing an advertising board of my own where guests can post, and then posting the site on other similar sites.

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