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Why do folk not upgrade?

Posted: Tue Apr 25, 2006 6:31 pm
by depablo
You see on a regular basis sites being hacked, the majority of the time because admins did not upgrade to the latest versions.

When you log in to the admin control panel you are told if you need to update. Okay folk might have mods, but is it worth the trouble not upgrading after all the effort to make your board a success, possibly losing everything?

Posted: Tue Apr 25, 2006 7:08 pm
by Newfie
People have busy lives, like jobs and college/university, and maybe even families to tend to.

The forum might be the last thing on their minds.

Posted: Tue Apr 25, 2006 8:29 pm
by custmguru®
I'm on my forum every day, in the admin panel once a week at least.

It's just wasn't something that was pressing on me. I didn't have the time to come check to see if i was out of date.

Since the AdminCP notice was added (and i was hacked the second time) I've been pretty good about it.

Posted: Tue Apr 25, 2006 9:11 pm
by Jim_UK
It may be that they think with all the boards out there that the chance of them being hacked is pretty remote. Remember also that the addition of the warning about your version being out of date has not been there very long (relatively).
If you have not been hacked and everything has just ticked along then you may have had no cause to visit this board and find that you were out of date. I have seen several instances of folks seeking help that were on version 1.
There may also be lots of folks that are afraid to update in case they screw up their boards. We have all seen instances of that in the Support forum.
Some have also got boards that have been simple 1 click installs and their host has control over the upgrades and has not done them.
There was even an instance in the last week were someone did have access to their boards files with ftp despite it being on free hosting and the host was supplying them with 2.0.6

Jim

Posted: Tue Apr 25, 2006 10:26 pm
by depablo
I never realised the upgrade warning was a new feature.

I suppose backing up should be straight forward, but I spent a while carrying out backups before I realised the back up can be corrupt for various reasons.

Noticed cpanel took a while to upgrade to latest version.

cheers for the replys, was just curious thats why I asked the question.

Posted: Tue Apr 25, 2006 10:33 pm
by quick5pnt0
Believe it or not many people just dont realize that they even need to update. It's usually not unti they get hacked that they look into the reason behind it.

Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 3:18 am
by Newfie
Version number increments of 0.0.01 can seem like just a few minor bug fixes.

Like 2.0.18 to 2.0.19 or whatever.

Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 4:07 pm
by telerman
I guess many people feel panic that some upgrade could make their forums brooke.
If something is working fine... touching it cause panic.

Also i think is not a nice idea from some sites to make public the flaws discovered, thats the source of most hackers.

Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 4:11 pm
by Suresh001
Upgrading forum really pain in the ass. It takes too much time to upgrade without easy mod and sometime easy mod won't work if the board is modded. Anyhow, its better to upgrade rather then feeling sad if anything happen.

Posted: Sun Apr 30, 2006 12:05 am
by calrissian
Why do they not upgrade?

1-Stupid/ignorant
2-lazy
3-or both of the above.
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It always astounds me how so many boards are still using versions 2.0.4/13. A lot of boards still don't have user visual ID - often since the template/theme they use is also out of date, so they have literally dozens of robots registering and spamming their forums.

Calrissian: 2.0.20 8)

Posted: Sun Apr 30, 2006 2:37 am
by ZoliveR
Why they don't update their boards?

- Not much time for doing this
- A lot of mods inside, so remod their board after each update is a pain for them
- Maybe they are really beginners and they can hardly manage their website...
- Or they are just tired to update their board 10 times each year...

They want maybe fulfill the update just by push a button and bzzzzzz the update is done...

Posted: Sun Apr 30, 2006 8:35 am
by ScottTaylor
for some I guess its the inability to... I know when I was new to phpBB I didnt know how to and I needed to get another person to...

Posted: Sun Apr 30, 2006 8:40 am
by karlsemple
Suresh001 wrote: Upgrading forum really pain in the ass. It takes too much time to upgrade without easy mod and sometime easy mod won't work if the board is modded. Anyhow, its better to upgrade rather then feeling sad if anything happen.





sorry but upgrading a vanilla board takes a matter of seconds. If you add mods you do so knowing the consequences of this.......one being the fact upgrading becomes more difficult. So people adding lots of mods can not then complain about having to upgrade.

Posted: Sun Apr 30, 2006 1:04 pm
by Elias
I would say..maybe they don't know how.

Posted: Sun Apr 30, 2006 3:10 pm
by Blackandy
Yeah. They don't know how, don't have time or simply just don't care anymore