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Rewarded For Violating the Law

Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 5:54 pm
by delta3
This is a good example of good news.

I think this story exemplifies smart, decisive, and valorous action by an ordinary citizen:

"Wesley Autrey, 50, jumped on to the subway tracks at a station in Manhattan's Harlem neighborhood on Tuesday to help Cameron Hollopeter, who had suffered a seizure and fallen."


http://www.radionz.co.nz/news/latest/20 ... y_superman


I like good news. I like heroism. Give the man a good cigar.

We should be ready for our chance at heroism if it ever comes.

Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2007 12:30 pm
by Nephrus
It is a very uplifting story (there was another one in New York where a man caught a kid who'd fallen off a fire escape, but I don't have a link as I heard it on the radio).

Good to see that there are still good people out there. :)

Your subject is a bit misleading though... as I don't see how what Mr. Autrey did violated the law.

Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2007 1:35 pm
by Nemesiszar
What an incredible man, I’m glad when I see stories like this one when somebody endangers their life for the sake of another person. If everybody were like that this world would have somewhat of a chance. But that wouldn’t be life would it? Lol, it’s a perfect example of the classic ‘boss’ not believing the tail and what had happened. I also don’t understand where the ‘violated the law’ bit comes in, just like Nephrus said it’s a bit misleading. So if you could explain that part it would be great. I expected this thread due to its title to be about someone violating the law. Anyway it’s a brilliant story and that man deserves a medal =P

~Nemesiszar.

Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2007 2:11 pm
by Jim_UK
Nemesiszar wrote: I also don’t understand where the ‘violated the law’ bit comes in, just like Nephrus said it’s a bit misleading.


You mean there is no law that says that ordinary citizens can't walk on the railway tracks?
I hope there is. :lol:

Jim

Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2007 4:26 pm
by Nemesiszar
Jim_UK wrote:
Nemesiszar wrote:I also don’t understand where the ‘violated the law’ bit comes in, just like Nephrus said it’s a bit misleading.


You mean there is no law that says that ordinary citizens can't walk on the railway tracks?
I hope there is. :lol:

Jim


Well there is, it’s my public footpath down my street, across the road and downtown. Get it right, I thought you were supposed to be a moderator. Usually means a highly superior being. Ah heck with it I didn’t read it right O.o Why are moderators always right? Well most of them xDDDD Anyways sure there are no rules for that right? So did the dude then get arrested for nearly dying and then the guy who saved him he must have been breaking the law to, that meant he also had to go onto the track. Argh ‘teh’ noies! That’s confusing. May the author of the thread please stand up and send some more information!

~Nemesiszar.

Posted: Sun Jan 07, 2007 12:01 pm
by UseLess
Greetings,

After a little 'Googling' the original poster means this;
Section 1050.9

Restricted areas and activities.

No person, except as specifically authorized by the Authority, shall enter or attempt to enter into any area not open to the public, including but not limited to train operator's cabs, conductor's cabs, bus operator's seat location, station booths, closed-off areas, mechanical or equipment rooms, concession stands, storage areas, interior rooms, catwalks, emergency stairways (except in cases of an emergency), tracks, roadbeds, tunnels, plants, shops, barns, train yards, garages, depots or any area marked with a sign restricting access or indicating a dangerous environment.


Therefore a member of the general public is not allowed onto the tracks...

Taken from: http://mta.info/nyct/rules/rules.htm

Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 3:16 pm
by delta3
Very useful info, U.

Of course regular persons cannot go on the tracks. They have not the status, it is a VIOLATION and calls for banning, a snippy/vague comment and closing of the scene and deleting the public record of the incident. (A cross-referenced copy should be retained for control purposes, of course.)

If one rewards violations with money, tickets and free rides, what will we have?

Lack of ORDER!

This behaviour must be nipped, nipped, I say, in the bud.

Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 5:25 pm
by Ska4Christ
delta3 wrote: Very useful info, U.

Of course regular persons cannot go on the tracks. They have not the status, it is a VIOLATION and calls for banning, a snippy/vague comment and closing of the scene and deleting the public record of the incident. (A cross-referenced copy should be retained for control purposes, of course.)

If one rewards violations with money, tickets and free rides, what will we have?

Lack of ORDER!

This behaviour must be nipped, nipped, I say, in the bud.


Yes, if only we could Moderate the world... :D

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The actual story, yeah, that's really cool that he did that. The train actually went over them?! Beyond anything that one would expect. I guess that's why we call him a hero.

Posted: Thu Jan 11, 2007 6:10 am
by OriginXT
That was a quick judgment by that man between breaking the code of the law but upholding the spirit of the law. Heroism at its best.

Posted: Thu Jan 11, 2007 12:54 pm
by Kigen
The law values human lives more than simple regulations. :)

Posted: Thu Jan 11, 2007 6:22 pm
by OneLung
Jim_UK wrote:
Nemesiszar wrote:I also don’t understand where the ‘violated the law’ bit comes in, just like Nephrus said it’s a bit misleading.


You mean there is no law that says that ordinary citizens can't walk on the railway tracks?
I hope there is. :lol:

Jim


Well, any reasonable person may consider "walking on the tracks" as an attempt at Suicide. Any yes, suicide is against the law. But to my knowledge, no one has ever been sucessfully prosecuted for committing suicide. :)