A_O_C wrote: Roberdin wrote:
A_O_C wrote:not true. just RUNNING a command, logged in as administrator, will prompt it (gpedit.msc, mmc, etc)
If you run any Microsoft Management Console applet (as an administrator or not) you will be prompted for authorisation (or, if you aren't an administrator, credentials) for obvious reasons: you are likely to use the console for administrative purposes.
the idea here is that if you follow Microsoft's recommendations (or, for that matter, almost all network administrator's recommendations), you should only use the administrator account for administrative purposes. therefore, why do i need to tell Microsoft "yes, i know what i am doing" if i am logged in as the administrator for that computer? you should then have a second account for "regular" access and use, which then i would agree the UAC prompt would be welcomed
Let's be realistic: How many idiots out there run Windows logged in as an administrator? Heck, how many so-called "Linux switchers" run as root? The answer is quite a few. This feature was turned on by default to protect those stupid and ignorant users from themselves. If you're an administrator and know what you're doing, then the first step should be to turn UAC off.
I'm sorry, but this whole overwhelming hatred for Vista is way out of hand in the public eye. I fully admit, Microsoft messed up some things in Vista. They released it too soon, and under delivered (WinFS, anyone?). But this constant FUD about it screwing up your entire computing experience is completely unfounded at this point. At launch, there were problems as you would always expect. OS X has these launch problems (like, say, 10.4.10?). Linux has these launch problems. Heck, as soon as phpBB 3.0 goes gold I'm assuming we'll see some problems that we didn't find before.
I have 9 computers in my house (soon to be 10 or 11), 4 of which are running Vista, soon to be 5. The other machines are on XP, only because their hardware is a bit out of date. One of my servers will be upgraded to Server 2008 upon launch. I've never had driver incompatibility issues, and I can't tell you how many devices I have plugged into my machines combined or the different combinations of hardware that each machine uses. I only had 1 outstanding issue (this
) on my laptop. The hotfix was available back in April, I only found about it until late July. I've never had software incompatibility issues that couldn't be fixed by a simple patch from the manufacturer.
Have people had serious driver issues with Vista? I'm quite certain they have. I've had driver issues with OS X and Linux as well. I can't tell you how many pissed off customers I have coming into where I work because their Sony HDD Camcorder won't work on OS X, or that they have to purchase the $1,200 Final Cut Pro 6.0 in order to edit AVCHD video format when the same thing is available on the PC for under $75. I get customers asking for computers with XP installed on them. And when I ask why they'd prefer XP over Vista, they tell me Vista sucks and it's horrible and it can't do anything. I ask for an example, and all they say is "a friend told me." Some people actually believe you can't network a Vista and XP machine together.
It's hype that just keeps getting passed around from a slim minority of users who have been experiencing problems (probably because of user error on their end). The whole "Windows will screw you over" and "Microsoft can't do anything right" is all just a bunch of hype that has been accumulating over the years, and now everyone is pointing out obvious things as horrible flaws when they fail to realize that the competition has just as many problems, flaws, and "screw ups."
I'm not a Microsoft fanboy. There's many things in Vista which I can't stand. IE6 and 7 are the worse software products on the face of the planet. I love OS X as an operating system (can't stand Aqua, though) and consumer platform. But there's also tons of things I can't stand in OS X, Linux, or any other piece of software out there. I'm extremely good at finding flaws in software, whether it be bugs, functionality preferences/practices, or UI inconsistencies.
Should the general public wait a bit to get Vista? I think so, at least until SP1. But is Vista going to screw them over and is it something the should "tread lightly" on or "leave it as a toy for the geeks" as "they" would have you believe? Absolutely not. Vista isn't perfect, but it's a solid upgrade from XP. Period.