Jim_UK wrote: ... refuse treatment ... as they stand less chance of recovering after an operation.
I don't think this is fair at all.
When do the obese get singled out? When do the drug addicts get singled out? What about people who work in coal mines? What about people who have recurring cancer -- due to some other reason than smoking? What about the elderly?
These are all people who stand less of a chance of recovering.
Sure smoking is deplorable, so is over eating -- and I'm not about to say these are addictions, deal with it -- but these people need more help than other people -- if at the very least to get OVER their addiction. From the stand point of a socialized medical system, they've paid taxes into the system. For those that say, 'But there are increased costs to take care of them,' I ask what about those people that never need to go to the hospital and only need the yearly check-up? Should they get there taxes BACK, because they've never needed to use the system?? Should a foreigner not recieve medical treatment because they've never paid into the system? That's a drain on resources as well.
From the stand point of the capitalist medical system (i.e. private insurance). If they've paid their premiums on time for all those years, I don't care what they've done -- they deserve treatment. 30 million people go with out health insurance because they simply can not afford to pay $1500 a month (last price I was quoted for Good private insurance -- and that is base -- price goes up from there). The best I can afford is $300 a month, but that's a $1000 dollar deductible, I pay for everything and get reimbursed from the insurance company. Once I stop being a contractor/student and get a job with a large company, I'm sure I'll have better insurance.
It is a necessity to go to the doctor's to get checked up. If we are going to deny people health care for their personal choices, then we should reward those people that don't make the bad choices. Those that pay taxes for socialized medicine -- give them back all of their taxes back minus the amount they used for regular check-ups. For privatized medicine -- the people that only need regular check-ups only need to pay to the insurance company the amount of their check-ups the next year.
If we are not going to reward good choices, then the only reason to deny a person health services is greed.
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