What should SEO URLs/ Pretty URLs look like?

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Re: What should SEO URLs/ Pretty URLs look like?

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AdamR wrote:The purpose of Area51 is for discussion of future versions of phpBB, including new features. It by no means is just for developers.
BTW, If we want people to be able to fluidly move between phpBB forums and Area 51, why does Area 51 require a separate account? :) It would seem that we have gone out of our way to ensure that the bulk of the community stays here and never visits, let alone participate at Area 51.
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Re: What should SEO URLs/ Pretty URLs look like?

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AdamR wrote:For what it's worthy, I completely agree that Area51 doesn't get as much traffic as it should, and I personally would love for everything to be in one place. There's been discussion about how we can solve that problem effectively,
One simple way is to add a link under Community that says "Feature Requests" and takes to Area 51. I'm sure that won't take more than 2 mts to implement.
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Re: What should SEO URLs/ Pretty URLs look like?

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sooskriszta wrote:
AdamR wrote:For what it's worthy, I completely agree that Area51 doesn't get as much traffic as it should, and I personally would love for everything to be in one place. There's been discussion about how we can solve that problem effectively,
One simple way is to add a link under Community that says "Feature Requests" and takes to Area 51. I'm sure that won't take more than 2 mts to implement.
Or just have an area51 subforum under all the other forums.

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Re: What should SEO URLs/ Pretty URLs look like?

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sooskriszta wrote:One simple way is to add a link under Community that says "Feature Requests" and takes to Area 51. I'm sure that won't take more than 2 mts to implement.
TBH Area51 isn't just a feature requests fora..

BTW as for the url thingy.. I would like to have the entire topic text in the url.. Just for the fun of it.. and that ppl can always read what the topic is about. :D :D :twisted:
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Re: What should SEO URLs/ Pretty URLs look like?

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sooskriszta wrote: One simple way is to add a link under Community that says "Feature Requests" and takes to Area 51. I'm sure that won't take more than 2 mts to implement.
There is already a link on the board index, just under Announcements.
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Brf wrote:There is already a link on the board index, just under Announcements.
Hardly anybody ever goes to board index, and when they do, Area 51 seems too exclusive. The link needs to be under COMMUNITY in top menu (where there are other links like Support Forums, Mod Forums, Styles Forums, phpBB Discussion, etc) - link should be called Feature Requests or some such and should lead to Area 51
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Rotsblok wrote:I would like to have the entire topic text in the url.. Just for the fun of it.. and that ppl can always read what the topic is about. :D :D :twisted:
Not sure if you are being serious or sarcastic - can't decipher emoticons very well. But having the entire topic text in the url is actually the point of this discussion. Assuming that entire topic text would be in URL, how exactly should the resulting issues be addressed?
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That would be a pretty long URL then. Your last post is 430 characters. I doubt you would want a URL much longer than, say, 20.
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Brf wrote:That would be a pretty long URL then. Your last post is 430 characters. I doubt you would want a URL much longer than, say, 20.
My bad. I misunderstood. I was talking about topic title when I said topic text (I read it as title text). Including the whole post is not advisable. Now I understand why a :twisted: was used
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Re: What should SEO URLs/ Pretty URLs look like?

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Currently, phpbb URLs look like this:

http://www.phpbb.com/community/viewtopi ... &t=2117269

I've noticed that when I move a topic to another forum, both the original and new links work (although I don't know how that affect watched forums). For example, if I moved this topic to forum 12345, the actual URL would be:

http://www.phpbb.com/community/viewtopi ... &t=2117269 (Notice that URL works even though there's probably no forum 12345.)

but

http://www.phpbb.com/community/viewtopi ... &t=2117269

would still work.

Given that, it seems that topic ID is the only relevant item (and post ID for post links and intra-page links). So couldn't we do something like:

http://www.phpbb.com/community/viewtopi ... -look-like?

(Some of the characters above may need to be replaced or deleted, like the slash after "URLs". For posts, just replace "?f=64&t=..." with "?p=...".)

That way, anything after the topic ID (or post ID or forum ID for forum links) would be ignored (up to any "#p" characters). If the topic title changed to "Pretty URLs", the URL could change to:

http://www.phpbb.com/community/viewtopi ... retty-URLs

with no effect on function or (hopefully) search engines.

Assuming that search engines don't ignore parameters, that seems like it would be easy to do now.

Another idea would be to do something like Dog Cow's URL changes, but that seems more extensive.

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Re: What should SEO URLs/ Pretty URLs look like?

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Just a question on the proposed URL formats...

In the current URL system for viewtopic.php, isn't the forum parameter (?f=) an SQL optimisation?

What about something the following for viewtopic.php using SEO URLs:
http://www.example.com/board/forum-titl ... d-title-93
rather than
http://www.example.com/board/forum-titl ... d-title-93

Pony99CA wrote:Assuming that search engines don't ignore parameters, that seems like it would be easy to do now.
The entire point of "SEO URLs" is to make the URLs look static, rather than using parameters. My guess for your proposal is that Google will possibly choose to ignore the title parameter if it sees duplicate pages with different title parameters - this is the way it currently works from what I've seen in Webmaster Tools AFAIK.
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Re: What should SEO URLs/ Pretty URLs look like?

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AdamR wrote:To be clear, discussion has already started about this over at Area51. In-depth discussion concerning actual implementation of these features should occur only on Area51 so we can keep things organized and so we don't have duplicate posts all over the place. :mrgreen:

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Re: What should SEO URLs/ Pretty URLs look like?

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Ok, Adam, I give up. Please lock this topic, and let's all move to http://area51.phpbb.com/phpBB/viewtopic ... 05&t=35616

P.S. Pony99CA, I like your idea and have modified it slightly. Check out the link.
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Re: What should SEO URLs/ Pretty URLs look like?

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sooskriszta wrote:
AdamR wrote:The purpose of Area51 is for discussion of future versions of phpBB, including new features. It by no means is just for developers.
BTW, If we want people to be able to fluidly move between phpBB forums and Area 51, why does Area 51 require a separate account? :) It would seem that we have gone out of our way to ensure that the bulk of the community stays here and never visits, let alone participate at Area 51.
+1.

So, Adam, where do I contribute ideas about the structure of clean URLs? I see this topic hasn't been locked yet.

Though I'm not sure if there's enough consensus on Area51 to even start work on them.

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