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Feature requests?

Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 7:55 pm
by hm2k
I'm trying to work out where you're supposed to submit them, if at all?

If you're not meant to submit feature requests, what about improvements? They aren't bugs...?

Perhaps i've overlooked it, but it wasn't obvious enough.

Hopefully someone will direct me to the correct place.

Re: Feature requests?

Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 8:15 pm
by Erik Frèrejean
The 3.0.x line is feature frozen.
For the 3.2.x line is a discussion about new features over at the area51 development board. So best is to try there.

Re: Feature requests?

Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 8:16 pm
by KevC
If you want something that is currently not in 3.0.x then post in 3x MOD requests and see if someone will make it for you.

Re: Feature requests?

Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 11:59 pm
by hm2k
Sure, I can make them myself, but I'd rather everyone reap the benefits, which is why I want to suggest the feature(s).

Where in the area51 development board do you suggest I post? I couldn't' figure that out either.

Re: Feature requests?

Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 1:04 am
by Phil
It's here.

Re: Feature requests?

Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 8:28 am
by KevC
hm2k wrote:Sure, I can make them myself, but I'd rather everyone reap the benefits, which is why I want to suggest the feature(s).
So what is it?

Re: Feature requests?

Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 10:50 am
by hm2k
iWisdom wrote:It's here.
I followed your link, and ended up here http://area51.phpbb.com/phpBB/, there I saw a section entitled "New features discussion", yet in the description it says "Don't post bug reports, feature requests...".

Please can someone provide me with a link to where feature requests can be submitted?

Re: Feature requests?

Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 12:58 pm
by Kellanved
In general, no feature requests are accepted for 3.0. For 3.2 there is a feature tracker on sourceforge. Please only use the sourceforge tracker for requests that already got a nod of approval :D .

Out of experience, discussing features and their merit here or at area51 works better than using an obscure tracker - if your feature has a point, is feasible and gets approval from the community, then an adoption into the core is entirely possible. The team is part of this community after all :mrgreen:

Re: Feature requests?

Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 1:16 pm
by hm2k
Ultimately, my first issue with phpBB3 is the installer.

It's far too long, and could be improved quite considerably to make it easier and simpler for users to install.

It's part feature request, part improvement suggestion. I'd like to see a better installer.

I had a few other suggestions on possible improvement, but they could possibly be mods, I still need to investigate the correct route for some features I have deemed required.

The question is, where is the best place to raise discussion about such possible improvements?

Re: Feature requests?

Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 2:57 pm
by Phil
How do you suggest the installer be made simpler? All of the information is necessary, so there's really no way to shorten it.

Re: Feature requests?

Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 3:18 pm
by hm2k
Having it on less page for a start, I think I counted about 8 pages...

Take a look at wordpress's 5 minute setup, they defiantly got that right.

Re: Feature requests?

Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 3:24 pm
by KevC
But you only have to do it once.
You only have to add a username, password and the database info.
Some of those pages are just confirmation and telling you it's ok to carry on.

if you have the right information in front of you it's probably less than a five minute job too.

Re: Feature requests?

Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 3:37 pm
by hm2k
You only ever installed phpbb once? How did you get so good? *grin*

Hardly appealing for users when the installer is crap is it?

Re: Feature requests?

Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 3:55 pm
by KevC
What I mean is, it's not something you have to do numerous times to get your board installed. It doesn't really matter if it's 20 pages long, if you only have to do it the once and you get a board out of it at the end I'm sure people don't mind too much. The amount of information you have to add is pretty minimal. In fact you really only have to type things in on two pages if I remember rightly.

What's the alternative?
One very long page? If you did that and there was a problem, you would have to scour all the information to find what's been flagged up. This way you get one page, that's correct, move to the next page etc. It's a very logical process and it also helps us solve installation problems for people because we know certain tasks have been successful and you can target much more easily where the problem is.
hm2k wrote:Hardly appealing for users when the installer is crap is it?
You're the first person I've seen who hasn't liked it.
And you still haven't really mentioned anything that's wrong with it.

Re: Feature requests?

Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 12:28 am
by Techie-Micheal
hm2k wrote:You only ever installed phpbb once? How did you get so good? *grin*

Hardly appealing for users when the installer is crap is it?
Insulting isn't the best way to get your point across. You may think it isn't as good as it could be, but I think it is great. Crap it is not.