How can phpBB be free?

Do not post support requests, bug reports or feature requests. Discuss phpBB here. Non-phpBB related discussion goes in General Discussion!
Scam Warning
WWu777
Registered User
Posts: 555
Joined: Tue Aug 14, 2007 12:40 pm
Contact:

How can phpBB be free?

Post by WWu777 » Sun Nov 16, 2008 4:19 am

I'm wondering something.

We are taught that there is no free lunch. So how can an efficient professional state of the art software like phpBB be free? What incentive or reward does it's programmers get from it? Who profits here? I don't get it. Can anyone explain how phpBB can be free?

And why are there support staff here in the forums almost 24/7? If they are unpaid, then what is their motivation or incentive? What's in it for them?

User avatar
Phil
Former Team Member
Posts: 10403
Joined: Sat Nov 25, 2006 4:11 am
Name: Phil Crumm
Contact:

Re: How can phpBB be free?

Post by Phil » Sun Nov 16, 2008 4:21 am

Nobody "profits" from phpBB, all of us (from the developers to the moderators to the support team members) do it for the love of the software and the community. We get what amounts to nothing back for our work. In essence, we do it for no reason other than we enjoy it.
Moving on, with the wind. | My Corner of the Web

User avatar
Marshalrusty
Project Manager
Project Manager
Posts: 29247
Joined: Mon Nov 22, 2004 10:45 pm
Location: New York City
Name: Yuriy Rusko
Contact:

Re: How can phpBB be free?

Post by Marshalrusty » Sun Nov 16, 2008 4:22 am

You might want to read about it: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_GPL

We work on phpBB because we want to. It is not our job and we do not get paid.
Have comments/praise/complaints/suggestions? Please feel free to PM me.

Need private help? Hire me for all your phpBB and web development needs

User avatar
ilikepeach
Registered User
Posts: 50
Joined: Wed Apr 09, 2008 10:10 am

Re: How can phpBB be free?

Post by ilikepeach » Sun Nov 16, 2008 4:27 am

The best things in life are free :mrgreen: .

User avatar
damsprivate
Registered User
Posts: 461
Joined: Sun Aug 17, 2008 10:39 pm
Location: indonesia
Contact:

Re: How can phpBB be free?

Post by damsprivate » Sun Nov 16, 2008 6:35 am

well really i dont know why im still posting help in phpbb. dispiteing the rules of helping others are so strict. :cry: maybe becouse i feel that i have many debt to it, that i have to somehow give help to it, becouse this great software i have my own community site. that will be on at this end of november ! yey!.

" there is allways a nice feeling when we help others . " ;)
Last edited by stickerboy on Sun Nov 16, 2008 8:07 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Reason: removed un-necessary colour from post
binus university 2009 .
"did u know that 17 august ( when i join this forum ) is at Indonesia independence day ? "

User avatar
Sniperbot
Registered User
Posts: 44
Joined: Thu Aug 21, 2008 2:02 pm

Re: How can phpBB be free?

Post by Sniperbot » Sun Nov 16, 2008 10:49 am

The best things in life are free :mrgreen: .
Well said.

SamG
Former Team Member
Posts: 3221
Joined: Fri Aug 31, 2001 6:35 pm
Location: Beautiful Northwest Lower Michigan
Name: Sam Graf

Re: How can phpBB be free?

Post by SamG » Sun Nov 16, 2008 3:11 pm

WWu777 wrote:We are taught that there is no free lunch.
This, of course, is still true. If we get phpBB for free, that just means others have made themselves responsible for the costs, whether in time or in money. There is indeed no free lunch.
We should talk less, and say more.

User avatar
DarkGod
I've Been Banned!
Posts: 221
Joined: Thu Jan 06, 2005 9:16 pm

Re: How can phpBB be free?

Post by DarkGod » Sun Nov 16, 2008 3:44 pm

Costs are covered through sponsors who use phpBB as a base for their advertisement, as well as selling the cute Bertie bear.

User avatar
Phil
Former Team Member
Posts: 10403
Joined: Sat Nov 25, 2006 4:11 am
Name: Phil Crumm
Contact:

Re: How can phpBB be free?

Post by Phil » Sun Nov 16, 2008 4:28 pm

Actually, the Bertie is currently being sold right around the break-even cost, meaning we make no profit from it.
Moving on, with the wind. | My Corner of the Web

dsavi
Registered User
Posts: 31
Joined: Sun May 11, 2008 2:00 pm
Location: Finland

Re: How can phpBB be free?

Post by dsavi » Sun Nov 16, 2008 5:43 pm

ilikepeach wrote:The best things in life are free GPL licensed. :mrgreen: .
That's more how I see it.

User avatar
noth
Registered User
Posts: 2472
Joined: Fri Jan 07, 2005 7:10 pm
Location: North Surrey
Contact:

Re: How can phpBB be free?

Post by noth » Sun Nov 16, 2008 5:53 pm

http://vimeo.com/1541049

have a look at the video of our top phpBB 'engineers' speaking 3 months ago in London

during this video they are asked what they would do if approached by "Vbulletun" to come over to the darkside

the replies show exactly how they feel!! :D

WWu777
Registered User
Posts: 555
Joined: Tue Aug 14, 2007 12:40 pm
Contact:

Re: How can phpBB be free?

Post by WWu777 » Sun Nov 16, 2008 9:24 pm

iWisdom wrote:Actually, the Bertie is currently being sold right around the break-even cost, meaning we make no profit from it.
W: How can that be? The price for that bear is the most expensive I've ever seen for a teddy bear!

WWu777
Registered User
Posts: 555
Joined: Tue Aug 14, 2007 12:40 pm
Contact:

Re: How can phpBB be free?

Post by WWu777 » Sun Nov 16, 2008 9:26 pm

DarkGod wrote:Costs are covered through sponsors who use phpBB as a base for their advertisement, as well as selling the cute Bertie bear.
W: But that's only on this site. The programmers and support people don't get paid I heard. I never thought of programming as "pure fun". I always thought of it as work.

User avatar
3Di
Former Team Member
Posts: 13902
Joined: Mon Apr 04, 2005 11:09 pm
Location: Milan (IT) Frankfurt (DE)
Name: Marco
Contact:

Re: How can phpBB be free?

Post by 3Di » Sun Nov 16, 2008 9:40 pm

I do code for fun, I have my own life and job. I just don't care about other selves business because it is not polite IMHO... :ugeek:

Sometimes I get paid for custom works though, but's upon my choice. 8-)
If I like it or not to do that.. and this is another history.

greets.
Please PM me only to request paid works. Thx.
Want to compensate me for my interest? Donate
My development's activity º PhpStorm's proud user
Extensions, Scripts, MOD porting, Update/Upgrades
👨‍🏫 | Take a tour to | The Studio | 👨‍🏫

User avatar
Highway of Life
Former Team Member
Posts: 6048
Joined: Wed Feb 02, 2005 5:41 pm
Location: Spokane, WA
Name: David Lewis
Contact:

Re: How can phpBB be free?

Post by Highway of Life » Mon Nov 17, 2008 9:15 am

WWu777 wrote:W: But that's only on this site. The programmers and support people don't get paid I heard. I never thought of programming as "pure fun". I always thought of it as work.
For some, it is something that was "fun" that became a "job", isn’t your dream job something that you enjoy doing for fun? ;)

There are many reasons that I give of my free time to work on phpBB, each team member has their own reasons, even if it is just because “they enjoy it”, and we all do.
The phpBB Weekly Podcast - Discussing the developments of phpBB4 and beyond.

New to phpBB3? Want to learn about programing?
Visit phpBB Academy at StarTrekGuide to learn how.

Post Reply

Return to “phpBB Discussion”