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Discuss: Blog "Moving on - the future of phpBB development"

Post by naderman » Thu Feb 18, 2010 2:05 am

Hey everyone!

I expect this blog post might result in quite a lot of discussion so we decided not to allow comments on the blog, but have the discussion take place here.

The blog post: http://blog.phpbb.com/2010/02/18/moving ... velopment/
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Post by idiotnesia » Thu Feb 18, 2010 3:51 am

It seems there will be a lot of changes in the near future. Can hardly wait to see it.
Anyway, will phpbb 3.0.x also use git?

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Post by A_Jelly_Doughnut » Thu Feb 18, 2010 3:59 am

All phpBB repository management will move to git.
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Post by t_backoff » Thu Feb 18, 2010 5:21 am

Wow. I do have a question though. What features are currently "decided on" for phpBB 3.1? Specifically, I'm asking if the listed presented here under "Planned Features" and "Smaller Planned Features" still applies (minus the features that were added to 3.0.6).

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Post by ToonArmy » Thu Feb 18, 2010 8:52 am

t_backoff wrote:Specifically, I'm asking if the listed presented here under "Planned Features" and "Smaller Planned Features" still applies (minus the features that were added to 3.0.6).
No reason why not, each enhancement has merit, we just won't be adding all of them in 3.1. ;)
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Re: Discuss: Blog "Moving on - the future of phpBB developme

Post by Desdenova » Thu Feb 18, 2010 3:27 pm

Is there a single page or topic with the planned 3.1 features so far?

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Post by ToonArmy » Thu Feb 18, 2010 5:21 pm

Desdenova wrote:Is there a single page or topic with the planned 3.1 features so far?
No, we might blog what we intend later. But as Nils detailed a number of things will be worked on, but not all of them might make the deadline.
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Post by imkingdavid » Thu Feb 18, 2010 8:37 pm

Hmmm I'm not liking the idea of the plugin system for phpBB4. Yes, it will make it more user friendly for most, which is good, but I for one still like exploring the code and changing it around manually. Will that still be possible on top of plugins or will doing so break the plugin functionality? Just wondering; maybe I'm not understanding it clearly.
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Post by Prince of phpbb » Thu Feb 18, 2010 9:31 pm

imkingdavid wrote:Hmmm I'm not liking the idea of the plugin system for phpBB4. Yes, it will make it more user friendly for most, which is good, but I for one still like exploring the code and changing it around manually. Will that still be possible on top of plugins or will doing so break the plugin functionality? Just wondering; maybe I'm not understanding it clearly.
Your comment is much like someone saying.. I don't like Synaptic Package Manager in Ubuntu because I like compiling my own sources use make commands! Plug-in system in phpBB4 makes it easier for people (yes, humans, its a race located on planet Earth, likes automizing things) to add/remove plug-ins. You can still go about exploring code as much as you want because it is all there :)

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Re: Discuss: Blog "Moving on - the future of phpBB developme

Post by Pasqualle » Fri Feb 19, 2010 2:15 pm

this plan is perfect, and congratulation on the lead developer position.
you may create new positions per version. developer who leads the development of the given phpBB version. "version maintainer; co-maintainer" or something similar..

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Post by Oleg » Fri Feb 19, 2010 9:01 pm

The announcement seems very promising. Did I correctly understand that phpbb wants to see non-bug fix patches submitted from the community? I.e. feature additions and architectural changes.
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Post by dizzi » Fri Feb 19, 2010 10:05 pm

There are plenty of positive points mentioned in the announcement - encouraging increased community participation in the core development process and clearly defined goals for a better phpBB - superb :). No my following point have surfaced before but I wish to suggest that the system's name be separated from the version number :). We should simply use phpBB (instead of phpBBX) and allow persons to state the full relevant version (preceded by a space of course) where required.

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Post by naderman » Fri Feb 19, 2010 10:19 pm

nn- wrote:The announcement seems very promising. Did I correctly understand that phpbb wants to see non-bug fix patches submitted from the community? I.e. feature additions and architectural changes.
Yes, absolutely. Of course they will have to meet our coding standards and goals, we will not just accept any MOD turned into a patch ;-)
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Post by ToonArmy » Fri Feb 19, 2010 11:16 pm

dizzi wrote:We should simply use phpBB (instead of phpBBX) and allow persons to state the full relevant version (preceded by a space of course) where required.
Most of the time it's written phpBB X.Y(.Z) but quite often that's compressed when just the X is used.
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Post by VSE » Sat Feb 20, 2010 6:08 pm

Would the plans to move phpBB4 over to a more object-oriented and 3rd party framework based system make Mod authoring and customizing less accessible to entry-level php coders?
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