Is phpBB the right application for me ???

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Is phpBB the right application for me ???

Post by ChipThome » Sat Apr 03, 2010 2:47 am

DISCLAIMER: Complete BB Newb here, please consider when replying. :)

What I want to create is a site that has topics (threads) that are listed in a descending order from newest to oldest. Each thread would have a brief description and a link to the original site where the rest of the information is located. The "threads" will be primarily news and opinion pieces.

So far, phpBB looks like a winner for that.

What I don't want and won't have is any "community" and no other posters or contributors other than myself.

I want the site and all "threads" viewable by anyone and everyone, and with no comments being allowed, I feel I will not alienate anyone by a poster's opinion or view on any specific topic.

The search function of phpBB looks like a winner also.

So the layout and search function of phpBB, is a definite winner and exactly what I want. From what I have briefly read here and elsewhere in the support forums, the real asset and bulk of phpBB is the community you can create.

So am I looking at the right application for my new site, or do you feel another might be better suited, and if so, which one or what kind ???

Thank you,

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Post by tbackoff » Sat Apr 03, 2010 5:48 am

You will be hard-pressed to find someone here to recommend something else other than phpBB. ;)

With that said, the best way for you to see if phpBB fits your needs is to install it locally and test.
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Post by Rhet-or-Ric » Sat Apr 03, 2010 7:26 am

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The very positive tone of your post, Chip, seems to indicate you have found what appeals to you and I sure wouldn't try to steer you away from phpBB. Actaully, I don't see any reason to try and steer you away, but it's what you like that counts, and you seem to like what you've seen so far.

I might recommend, though, that you place a clearly visible banner on your site explaining it is locked and nobody can post, or you may have some frustrated people that never return because they tried to post and couldn't. Or tried to register and couldn't. I don't think too many people have seen a phpBB site that was not for posting.

Ah, maybe you shouldn't use the vocabulary "locked" as that sounds negative. Just something explaining it's just for you to communicate out to the rest of the people on the Net, but not for discussion purposes. Something polite that may get them to return. I assume you want people to return, right?

Will that index page be just one page of a larger site?

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Post by imkingdavid » Sat Apr 03, 2010 12:08 pm

Well, everything you described can easily be achieved through the use of phpBB. It can also be achieved with myBB, SMF, and a variety of other free and commercial software. So really, it's up to you. I think the best way to find out what works for you is to download a few different forum software packages and install each and try them all out. Whichever one you like best is the one you should use.
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Post by ChipThome » Sat Apr 03, 2010 5:39 pm

Thank you for your input so far.

phpBB as far as the right application, of the forum apps available, for me is the right choice, should I go the BB route. That is where I am torn.

As was mentioned, creating a mood of "negativity" is high on my list of things to avoid. For that reason, I feel I would have to "gut" any reference to comments, members, posting, community etc from the pages. If there would be no reference to any of that, no one should be offended "that they can't sign up" when they may believe others, for whatever reason, could.

By doing this, removing the "community" as it were, I am wondering if this app, or maybe any BB app for that matter, might be "overkill" now, for what I want to accomplish ??? If you think that maybe it might be "overkill", do you have a suggestion of another route for me to take to create something similar to what I have described ???

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Post by ChrisRLG » Sat Apr 03, 2010 6:56 pm

One other option for you is the blog type software which I feel is perhaps more targetted to do what you are asking for.

Forums are typically for multi authors who are also readers. They are designed for interaction between the posters within the topic of choice.

Blogs are typically witten by one (or a few) author, with a larger readership. They are designed for information to be presented by that single user (or group) either with or without comments being allowed.

So going by what you are asking the software to do, and by what the readers of forum software and blog software normally expect, I would suggest that along with phpBB3 you also check out some of the blogging software.

Yes phpBB3 (and other forum software) will do what you require, but so too does other types of software. Dont limit your choice to just forum software.
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Post by Lumpy Burgertushie » Sun Apr 04, 2010 3:03 am

I agree with Chris.

a blog is exactly what you are describing. you can turn of comments very easily in most blog software and therefore you would have exactly what you want.


wordpress is probably the best and is free like phpbb with a large support community for it.


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Post by imkingdavid » Sun Apr 04, 2010 3:08 am

I agree with the two above me. If you don't want users to be able to post, but want people to be able to comment, a blog sounds like the perfect solution for you. There are plenty out there, so look around and see which is best for you.
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Post by Rhet-or-Ric » Sun Apr 04, 2010 6:38 am

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It seems Chip doesn't want anyone to comment on his site.

Of course, the blog format came to my mind as well, but I had the impression from reading between the lines that Chip wasn't keen on the blog format. I had the impression that he wanted a forum-looking landing page, but for the purpose of using it like a blog. It was that "impression" that had me thinking and eventually adding my two-cents above.

I find the idea of using forum software for the purpose of a blog rather refreshing. Blogs look like what they are -- a blog. If you've seen one blog, you've seen them all, so to speak. Of course, there are all sorts of variations, but when you get right down to it, they all leave the same impression -- another blog.

A forum turned into a blog, on the other hand, seems a bit of a novelty. I can't say as I've ever seen that done, although I imagine it probably has.

As for needing to remove all references to, how did you phrase it?
... I feel I would have to "gut" any reference to comments, members, posting, community etc from the pages.
There are various references to members that could easily be removed, but on the index page of phpBB I do not recall the word "community" being visible.

Let's see, this at the top would go:
User Control Panel (0 new messages) • View your posts / FAQ / Members / Login


And this:
View unanswered posts • View new posts
Maybe, "View new posts" should stay.

And at the bottom:
Who is online
In total there are 2 users online :: 2 registered, 0 hidden and 0 guests (based on users active over the past 60 minutes)
Most users ever online was XXX on Sun Jul 19, 2009 4:33 pm

Registered users: Google [Bot], Rhet-or-Ric
Legend: Administrators, Moderators

And this under "Statistics:
Total members XX • Our newest member XXXXXXXXXXX
I think that would remove anything that implied membership was being solicited.

I don't know, I just like the feel of the idea, as can already be gathered from what I've written.

By the way, do let us know, Chip, in what direction you end up going. I am quite curious, as can also be discerned from what I've written.

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Post by Lumpy Burgertushie » Sun Apr 04, 2010 4:24 pm

Just last week I decided to have a blog( never wanted one before ).
I thought it would be interesting to create a blog out of phpbb3.
I do know how to create complete websites out of phpbb not even using a forum at all.
However, after several hours messing with it, I decided it was not the best use of my time and simply went with WP for my blog.

by the way, there is a blog MOD for phpbb3 available here:
http://www.lithiumstudios.org/forum/vie ... 33&start=0

you could make it the default for your board instead of an add-on thing.



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Post by imkingdavid » Sun Apr 04, 2010 5:02 pm

Lumpy Burgertushie wrote:Just last week I decided to have a blog( never wanted one before ).
I thought it would be interesting to create a blog out of phpbb3.
I do know how to create complete websites out of phpbb not even using a forum at all.
However, after several hours messing with it, I decided it was not the best use of my time and simply went with WP for my blog.

by the way, there is a blog MOD for phpbb3 available here:
http://www.lithiumstudios.org/forum/vie ... 33&start=0

you could make it the default for your board instead of an add-on thing.



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That Blog MOD you linked to allows each user to have a blog. I guess in this case it could work, since Chip would be the only user, but I am making a MOD that adds a single blog to the website.
That being said, I think that in his situation, going with something separate from phpBB would be best since he doesn't seem to need the forum alongside it anyway.
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Post by ChipThome » Mon Apr 05, 2010 8:17 am

What great input from everyone, thank you !!!!

My complaint with a blog is how it stores the various posts. I have no intentions of categories, or subjects, so storing by that is out.

I do like the idea of 25 or whatever posts per page, with prior pages and posts accessed by clicking next or previous, at the bottom of the list.

Over the years I have participated in a number of forums, and each I think you will agree, seems to grow it's own personality. Some are open and accommodating, some "clique-ish", some have been a collection of some seriously pompous people and some I have seen have been just "down right nasty".

IMO, the "resource" value of some of those forums was lost, because of that "personality" that I am sure drove people away after a time. Locally, I have seen it happen over the last couple of years to one that I watched daily.

So that's why "no members" as I hope to keep it a "resource" on varying topics, instead of whatever members chose to turn it into. So in that regard, it kinda is like a blog..... but then again, not.

I am going to have to investigate that blog mod, and see what that's about. For the other suggestions on the mention of "members" and removing that, I assume I am going to have to open up the code and go in a "snip it out" so to speak ???

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Post by SamG » Mon Apr 05, 2010 2:53 pm

Blogs can be unstructured beyond dating, and they are by nature one-to-many communication platforms. Forum software, on the other hand, takes a many-to-many approach.

So just to be another who agrees with Chris, whatever the shortcomings of blogs, out of the box I think they are closer to what you are after than forums. So I think that both short- and long-term (very important when considering deep customization of software), building from a blog (or CMS) package could have clear benefits over trying to bend the many-to-many design of forum software into a blog-like direction.
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Post by Lumpy Burgertushie » Mon Apr 05, 2010 4:42 pm

by your own description of what you find negative about forums, you should be using a blog instead.

there are no "members" with a blog.

you simply turn off comments from your admin panel of your blog software.

then only you can post whatever it is that you think the world needs to know.

you do NOT have to have multiple categories, etc.

most blog software comes with one category already to post in. If you want more, you have to create them just like you do in a bulletin board( phpbb ).

I am certainly not trying to convince you not to use phpbb. It is just that what you describe is not what a bulletin board is designed for and it is exactly what a blog is designed for.


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Post by stickerboy » Tue Apr 06, 2010 12:10 am

This may be of interest to you if you're still looking into phpBB :)
http://www.phpbb.com/community/viewtopi ... &t=1948335
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