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[Discuss] phpBB “Ascraeus” 3.1 Feature Freeze

Post by naderman » Tue Jul 20, 2010 2:47 pm

Please use this topic to discuss the blog post phpBB “Ascraeus” 3.1 Feature Freeze.
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Re: [Discuss] phpBB “Ascraeus” 3.1 Feature Freeze

Post by Josemi » Tue Jul 20, 2010 5:14 pm

For when can be expect final version?

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Post by callumacrae » Tue Jul 20, 2010 5:25 pm

Josemi wrote:For when can be expect final version?
I doubt theres a set date

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Re: [Discuss] phpBB “Ascraeus” 3.1 Feature Freeze

Post by Erik Frèrejean » Tue Jul 20, 2010 5:28 pm

Josemi wrote:For when can be expect final version?
As always the day after the day before its done.

This feature freeze simply means that no new features will be added to the development branch for Ascraeus. This however doesn't mean that all accepted changes are already fully implemented, the devs will now work on finishing the feature set as posted in the blog post. After that we'll see the required alpha/beta/RC releases before the final product is released.
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Re: [Discuss] phpBB “Ascraeus” 3.1 Feature Freeze

Post by VSE » Tue Jul 20, 2010 6:14 pm

Josemi wrote:For when can be expect final version?
That question didn't take long to appear at all! :mrgreen:
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Re: [Discuss] phpBB “Ascraeus” 3.1 Feature Freeze

Post by NeilUK » Tue Jul 20, 2010 8:35 pm

Does this signal the end of subSilver altogether or will there be a subSilver3 ?

My Forum users won't let me install other styles, they are traditionists and only use subSilver

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Post by callumacrae » Tue Jul 20, 2010 8:44 pm

NeilUK wrote:Does this signal the end of subSilver altogether or will there be a subSilver3 ?

My Forum users won't let me install other styles, they are traditionists and only use subSilver
I imagine someone will make a version suitable for 3.1.x

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Re: [Discuss] phpBB “Ascraeus” 3.1 Feature Freeze

Post by daman2k » Tue Jul 20, 2010 9:08 pm

How can you drop Subsilver?
I tried changing from a subsilver style once before and it caused huge issues.
Is subsilver going to be exported to a prosilver based style and supported by the phpbb team?
Are you going to make the code edits needed for every version available?
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Post by callumacrae » Tue Jul 20, 2010 9:10 pm

SubSilver2 didn't look modern, and not many people used it. It was just a pain to support on the MOD authors behalf. As I said, I'm sure someone else will port it to 3.1.x

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Post by Erik Frèrejean » Tue Jul 20, 2010 9:11 pm

See this discussion for the reasons behind the SubSilver2 drop.
daman2k wrote:Are you going to make the code edits needed for every version available?
It won't be supported anymore so the devs won't provide update paths to it, if they did it wouldn't make sense to drop support for it ;).
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Post by A_Jelly_Doughnut » Tue Jul 20, 2010 9:53 pm

subsilver is dead from our point of view. It will not be supported by the Development team in any form beyond phpBB 3.0.x.
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Post by Dog Cow » Tue Jul 20, 2010 11:00 pm

NeilUK wrote:My Forum users won't let me install other styles, they are traditionists and only use subSilver
I believe the term is "luddite". I participate at a forum which upgraded to phpBB 3 about a year ago and there was a big commotion about the new proSilver theme.
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Post by marian0810 » Tue Jul 20, 2010 11:21 pm

But prosilver styles make the forum sooooo much slower... :cry:
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Re: [Discuss] phpBB “Ascraeus” 3.1 Feature Freeze

Post by Phil » Wed Jul 21, 2010 12:45 am

marian0810 wrote:But prosilver styles make the forum sooooo much slower... :cry:
As far as I am aware the performance difference between proSilver and subsilver2 is negligible. There have been some anecdotal claims otherwise, but thus far I am not aware of anyone reproducing this difference in a controlled test to produce actual figures confirming this.
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Post by narqelion » Wed Jul 21, 2010 1:09 am

Phil wrote:but thus far I am not aware of anyone reproducing this difference in a controlled test to produce actual figures confirming this.
Actually I did last year after reading a post by drathbun making the same assertion that his benchmark tests showed subsilver performing better than prosilver. I had the same result using our benchmarking systems in the development lab at work. There was nothing anecdotal about my results. I also thought I remember the devs eventually acknowledging the problems with prosilver but that conversation may not have taken place in a public forum. ;)

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