And if you don't?sleevedbiker wrote: If you use adsense and/or google analytics you will see it all.
How would Google know about returning visitors?
And if you don't?sleevedbiker wrote: If you use adsense and/or google analytics you will see it all.
ill tell you there are things that help boost your ranking that you would never guess do to.phpDummie wrote:And if you don't?sleevedbiker wrote: If you use adsense and/or google analytics you will see it all.
How would Google know about returning visitors?
Well, yes, if you're using a Google service on your site they can. But, for precision, I'll amend my statement to say "Google has no way of knowing how many returning visitors you have if you or the site you're visiting aren't using a Google service".sleevedbiker wrote:oooo yes they do. they track all IPs that come on to google. If you use adsense and/or google analytics you will see it all.Pony99CA wrote:What does "returning visitors" mean? Google has no way of knowing how many returning visitors you have. (They can track how many people click your link in the Google results, of course, but I don't recall ever hearing that they use that in their results display.)sleevedbiker wrote:it really does nothing with search engines. Search engines like google go based on how long the URL has been up based on years and the quality of the content such as your returning visitors[...]
One of the biggest things that they do use (which you omitted) is backlinks -- how many other sites link back to you (weighted by those sites' PageRank, I believe). That's why blog/forum spammers exist -- not to get people to click on their spam links, but to get more backlinks that increase their sites' placement in the results pages.
The URL may be given some weight (for example, if the words in the URL are found on the page, that could give you a small bump), but I haven't seen anybody claim that's a huge influence.
Steve
Yes, Google is penalizing link farms. (I hope that my personal link pages, sites that I've actually visited and liked, aren't penalizing the sties that I link to....)sleevedbiker wrote:Also, you are correct that backlinks play a part in the algorithm, but backlinks can also hurt your site at the same time. you need to make sure they are the highest quality backlinks. So the people that use bots to do this can actually hurt their site by doing it.
I don't know. Consider a site about dogs (say dogs.com for simplicity). Say that somebody wants to search for dachshunds and Google has indexed dogs.com/dachshunds.html. The domain part of the URL is very generic, but the path and page name will likely be more specific and contain keywords on that page. That could conceivably give that page a (small) boost in the results.sleevedbiker wrote:As for the URL the only thing that should be relevant to the site is obviously the main url _____.whatever)although .coms rank higher. Anything other than that wont doesnt do anything. and neither do all these stupid keyword boxs i see everywhere. those are the joke of the internet.
I don't know about that, either. Maybe your site ranked so highly because it got a lot of content in all of those years and a lot of backlinks.sleevedbiker wrote:[...] But, with that in mind my conclusion to the BIGGEST part of being ranked as high as possible has to do with how many years the URL/site has been around. And theres nothing you can pay for to beat that. Other than buying a URL thats been around for a long time.
I think that's the point. In a competitive space, every little bit can help, so the thought is that human friendly URLs might help a bit by getting you listed a little earlier in search results. (Whether they actually do or not is the big question.)sleevedbiker wrote:Everything else just bumps you up on the list some[....]
It doesn't answer my question.sleevedbiker wrote:ill tell you there are things that help boost your ranking that you would never guess do to.phpDummie wrote: And if you don't?
How would Google know about returning visitors?
Google ads, Google+ buttons, Google Analytics, Doubleclick, anything else linking to Google that gives away referrer headers. That's primarily the reason why I don't use Google ads and other Google services linking from my site.phpDummie wrote:And if you don't?
How would Google know about returning visitors?
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That's Firefox being stupid, probably. Ampersands in URLs are as normal as question marks or forward slashes. Search google and look at the URL there, for example.Mehtuus wrote:One possible reason to institute "simple URL's" is for program compatibility when including home page links within Firefox Addons that you maintain.
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Is this a shortcoming of phpBB for not being able to render simple url's without symbols, or with Firefox for deeming addons incompatible because the internal website link includes an "&" symbol? I am convinced that the answer will depend on the user's perspective.
I think that phpBB should have the "simple URL" feature available for those that wish to use it. Also, Firefox should be able to properly understand home page links that include the "&" symbol.
you don't need one.bigpapa78 wrote:Is there an easily to install SEO URL mod that works with phpbb3 version 3.0.11? Thanks
You should never include the Session ID (sid=) parameter in a link, so the link is reallymrsklb wrote:I answer a lot of helpdesk queries day in, day out and I refer back to the forum a huge amount of the time, sometimes my customers need a little handholding so I direct them back to our direct sub-forum for their product, rather than just the general board. Having a vanity URL for this would be much easier than remembering: viewforum.php?f=23&sid=1b64da5f5d2a93d8292686ea3693c976 /productserieshere would be much easier.
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.Good tip I can shorten many of the topics this way, will save a lot of hassle.Pony99CA wrote:You should never include the Session ID (sid=) parameter in a link, so the link is reallymrsklb wrote:I answer a lot of helpdesk queries day in, day out and I refer back to the forum a huge amount of the time, sometimes my customers need a little handholding so I direct them back to our direct sub-forum for their product, rather than just the general board. Having a vanity URL for this would be much easier than remembering: viewforum.php?f=23&sid=1b64da5f5d2a93d8292686ea3693c976 /productserieshere would be much easier.viewforum.php?f=23
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While that's not nearly as bad, human-readable URLs are nicer, if not strictly necessary.
Steve
P.S. Anybody using bit.ly or any other URL shortening system outside of a constrained medium like texting and Twitter should be banned from the Internet. I never click those links because you don't know what could be lurking there. (And, yes, I know about Long URL, but why should I have to use that?) If you use URL shortening in a forum like this, I presume that you're trying to pull something over on us.