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"Guest" showing up in my Private Forum

Post by Karlced » Thu Jun 16, 2011 5:19 pm

I have a phpBB board with numerous public forums, and one Private forum for the moderators.

Every day at nearly the same time, I have one "guest" showing up in my Private forum.

This forum only has 5 people allowed in, all with distinct usernames. I have blocked "guests" and all other users, including bots.

Then, is shows a "guest" is browsing the forum.

I've re-checked that guests are not allowed access.

Thanks.

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Re: "Guest" showing up in my Private Forum

Post by Brf » Thu Jun 16, 2011 5:22 pm

That Guest would either be seeing a logon page, or an error message.

http://www.phpbb.com/community/docs/FAQ.html#viewonline
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Re: "Guest" showing up in my Private Forum

Post by Karlced » Thu Jun 16, 2011 5:37 pm

Thank you for your quick reply.

The problem is this forum is not even visible to guests. They shouldn't even know it exists.

Yet, daily there is the "guest" there browsing. How would they even be there? Thanks.

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Re: "Guest" showing up in my Private Forum

Post by Brf » Thu Jun 16, 2011 5:46 pm

If it is a familiar IP address, then it is one of your allowed users, before they login.
If it is not, then someone could be following a link, or typing in an address in their addressbar.

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Re: "Guest" showing up in my Private Forum

Post by Karlced » Thu Jun 16, 2011 5:50 pm

Brf wrote:If it is a familiar IP address, then it is one of your allowed users, before they login.
If it is not, then someone could be following a link, or typing in an address in their addressbar.
-The people allowed in must sign-in with their approved user name before even seeing this private forum. As a 'guest' the forum is not visible.

-If they are typing the address in the address bar, they would have to post a very long combination of letters and numbers (0869c8479ca3ea3e2b748d5b3...) which I don't think they could do.

-There are no links to this private forum anywhere.

I know there are some people wanting to hack the site. So this it's very worrisome seeing a 'guest' there.

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Re: "Guest" showing up in my Private Forum

Post by Brf » Thu Jun 16, 2011 5:51 pm

No.
All they would have to type is viewforum.php?f=66 or whatever your forum's number is.

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Re: "Guest" showing up in my Private Forum

Post by Karlced » Thu Jun 16, 2011 5:53 pm

Brf wrote:No.
All they would have to type is viewforum.php?f=66 or whatever your forum's number is.
Ah, so it is likely someone who knows what they are doing.

However, they cannot access it even by doing this?

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Re: "Guest" showing up in my Private Forum

Post by Brf » Thu Jun 16, 2011 5:54 pm

Brf wrote:That Guest would either be seeing a logon page, or an error message.

http://www.phpbb.com/community/docs/FAQ.html#viewonline

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Re: "Guest" showing up in my Private Forum

Post by Karlced » Thu Jun 16, 2011 6:20 pm

So if I have guests that are down as having "no access", even though they are shown to be browsing there is no way they have access?

Thank you.

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Re: "Guest" showing up in my Private Forum

Post by Lumpy Burgertushie » Thu Jun 16, 2011 8:13 pm

Karlced wrote:So if I have guests that are down as having "no access", even though they are shown to be browsing there is no way they have access?

Thank you.
correct. log out and see what you can see as a guest. that is what every other guest sees and nothing more.

if you type in the link to a certain page of the board, all guests will see the same thing you are seeing.

forget what it says in the whos online thing, that confuses everybody and I think it should be changed in the next version.

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Re: "Guest" showing up in my Private Forum

Post by Pony99CA » Thu Jun 16, 2011 11:58 pm

Karlced wrote:
Brf wrote:No.
All they would have to type is viewforum.php?f=66 or whatever your forum's number is.
Ah, so it is likely someone who knows what they are doing.
I think you're still missing the point. If one of your regular users bookmarked the forum, then logged out, when they accessed that bookmark again, they'd be shown as a Guest until they logged in. It doesn't have to be somebody nefarious who "knows what they are doing".

Guests can always access the URL, but phpBB will prevent them from seeing anything other than an error. Who Is Online just knows that somebody is at that URL; it doesn't know what that person is seeing.

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Re: "Guest" showing up in my Private Forum

Post by Karlced » Fri Jun 17, 2011 2:17 am

Thank you for the replies. Truly appreciated!

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Re: "Guest" showing up in my Private Forum

Post by Tastenplayer » Mon Nov 04, 2019 2:27 pm

An old post, but I've had exactly the same problem for days.
My keyboard forum is overwhelmed by unpleasant visitors. Unfortunately I can't block countries. I blocked IP with htaccess what worked.
The two private forums I as a guest and bots can not see.
However the uninvited guests were certainly in the private forums.
It stood clearly:
User browsing this forum: Tastenplayer and 5 guests
If you cannot see these forums as a guest, or if you are not in them (not as a normal guest but as a guest with special knowledge), you would not be able to find 5 guests in this forum, or nevertheless?
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Re: "Guest" showing up in my Private Forum

Post by KevC » Mon Nov 04, 2019 2:32 pm

Tastenplayer wrote:
Mon Nov 04, 2019 2:27 pm
However the uninvited guests were certainly in the private forums.
See the first reply.
They are not able to see the forum contents.
They are bots that are systematically going through forum ID numbers and happen to have landed on the number for that forum but they cannot see the contents.

Copy the forum address, log out, and paste it in to the address bar and you'll see what they see. 'You do not have permission to view this forum'
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Re: "Guest" showing up in my Private Forum

Post by Tastenplayer » Mon Nov 04, 2019 2:33 pm

Yes, I thought so too, but why does it say that there are 5 guests in this forum? :?
Copy the forum address, log out, and paste it in to the address bar and you'll see what they see. 'You do not have permission to view this forum'
I did and see nothing. But these are not normal guests. They are burrs and besides IT specialists.
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