I find your response, in fact, to be asinine and if you had a clue about 3.1 you would realize that automod will be obsolete with the release of it. Why stop with Automod, why not include Titania, UMIL and every other mod written by the modifications team?sevenalive wrote:That's the obvious reason and it's a stupid one.
Automod is not some panacea. Users still post "I used automod to install the mod, but I can't get it to display on my style" or "automod is complaining that it can't find xx in my style or blah blah in my PHP file" and many just choose to not use automod to begin with.Including it by default is convenience, but it also makes it easier for people to get started with mods. If 90% (made up) of your phpBB base had automod installed, then it makes perfect sense to include it.
Aside from what Rich said, the fact is that AutoMOD is its own world and deals entirely with MODs and can have an adverse effect on boards if used or configured improperly. When we first came up with the idea through EasyMOD (2.x days) the idea was promising. When AutoMOD was created it was pretty raw and needed work. It isn't until now that it is so stable that it could be considered for inclusion. However I don't think we should be adding such a gigantic and potentially dangerous feature to 3.0.x at this point. We rather go with the extensions and events system that is going to be in 3.1, which would eliminate the need to have to edit files, though that need might still exist in some rare and short-lived instances.sevenalive wrote:Why isn't AutoMod default in the phpbb download. It is essential. Too many people try and manually edit and make mistakes, wasting mod creators and style creators time.
It's mature enough and I haven't had a problem with it. I do have to manually edit the install.xml's when other mods cause the install to fail.
There is a two-click way to get to autoMOD from the downloads page. In the footer where we have links to other relevant parts of the site there is: 'Add Functionality with MODs'.sevenalive wrote:Now that is a better reason. I was hoping 3.1 would have a plugin system similar to wordpress.
If 3.1 will be released sometime in 2013, I wouldn't bother either. But if it's still 2 years+ from release, then I would at least put the automod package as a recommended download on the downloads page.
Right now it's treated like Umil, it's hidden because it's intended for developers. But AutoMOD is for everyone.
I click the Customise menu button. I see the moddb. I see no mention of automod or how to install them.
So what I'm really saying is start advertising it. There could be an announcement box shown above the moddb pages that tells them about automod and link to the download.
the store folder has to be set to chmod 777Mr. Natural wrote:I was able to update successfully, but when I go to the AutoMod page, I get the message:
The store/ directory is not writable.