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Re: Discuss: phpBB 3.1.0-RC1 released

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Stoker 4.0 wrote:I have been looking for codechanges so i can update style and language.
Is it available?
What language do you want to update?

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Last days the style-code-changes were about 7 MiB, so i don't think this is useful for your. For myself i think, i will create my style new from the prosilver. There are so many changes and relating to responsive design, this should be the easier way. :)
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Re: Discuss: phpBB 3.1.0-RC1 released

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Thanks
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Re: Discuss: phpBB 3.1.0-RC1 released

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Paul wrote:There is no such thing as MODs anymore, MODs are replaced with extensions, which just need to be uploaded into the right folder, and after that need to be enabled in your ACP.
So, for the end user, the process is still the same except the "install" part? And extension files and folders still need to be uploaded to their respective folders as before...pretty much the same process correct?

If there is a problem, i.e. a particular piece of code that was not installed because of imporper coding or conflict with another extension's code, will it still let you know so you can add the missing/problematic code manually?
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Re: Discuss: phpBB 3.1.0-RC1 released

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Each extension uses its own directory (and only one): ext/<vendor>/<ext_name>/ all the files added by the extension must be in this directory (and so the extensions does not change any existing file).

=> we can't have any conflict to solve manually. Some extensions could be incompatible but it's not the same issue and it' very easy to solve: disable one of the extensions.
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Re: Discuss: phpBB 3.1.0-RC1 released

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Congratulations on RC. :) The new features look great--can't wait to upgrade once the final release is available!
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Paul wrote:There is no such thing as MODs anymore, MODs are replaced with extensions, which just need to be uploaded into the right folder, and after that need to be enabled in your ACP.
Does it mean, no more code edits?
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Korkel wrote:
Paul wrote:There is no such thing as MODs anymore, MODs are replaced with extensions, which just need to be uploaded into the right folder, and after that need to be enabled in your ACP.
Does it mean, no more code edits?
The ideal case should be: never touch the phpbb-core files.

Always use a extension for your stuff.

So: Download Extension --> upload the extension per ftp to his directory --> acp --> enable --> done ;)
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Re: Discuss: phpBB 3.1.0-RC1 released

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Shouldn't have to hack into the core anymore. I personally will. its quicker to just add one line of code without having to figure out how to write an ext for as i'm not so code savvy :)
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Re: Discuss: phpBB 3.1.0-RC1 released

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Ok, I understand more clearly but still wish they would be uploaded via the ACP as well as styles. It would make things easier for people who are new to forums. Personally, I know quite a few people who shy away from phpBB and other such software because of this. The reasoning is it takes longer for them to get their forum going the way they want because it is a steeper learning curve for them. If they uploaded via the ACP, they could get the forum going and then learn manual uploading and manual editing at their leisure.

Well, maybe in the near future...
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@Skhilled44:
Could be a feature for 3.2. The step is not to big, i think, when we already have an extensions system like this.
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Yes you are correct the step is not too big. We are making plans to update our Customisations Database (Titania) to allow for the phpBB software to connect to it remotely, download, and unpackage extensions and styles to their destination location. Then the administrator would go trough the enabling of them, although this part is not really set in stone on how it will be done.
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Skhilled44 wrote:I know quite a few people who shy away from phpBB and other such software because of this. The reasoning is it takes longer for them to get their forum going the way they want because it is a steeper learning curve for them.
Is it really that much steeper. If they install the forum software the preferred way (in other words, not using "one-step installers" that aren't supported), they still have to upload the phpBB files and run the installation process.

If they can do that, I would think that uploading and installing extensions would be a piece of cake.

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Installing extensions is 1000 times easier than MODs. You simply upload via FTP the extension to the ext/ directory in phpBB. Then enable it in the ACP.

Now, since 3.1 is still only a Release Candidate, we do not yet have an official Validated Extensions Database/Repository here on phpBB.com. So all current extensions are available directly from their authors.

That means it is up to the author to instruct you, the user, what the extension's vendor_name/package_name should be when uploaded to the ext/ directory.

But by the time we are validating/releasing extensions officially, we should have some sort of system in place to make it as easy as possible for you to install extensions without having to "figure out" the vendor_name/package_name on your own. Ideally, the downloaded zip file would unzip to the vendor_name/package_name format.

And as DavidIQ mentioned, a little further down the road, we'd like to have an ACP-based interface for downloading and installing extensions with just a click (or two).
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Extensions are the future, a future easier... ;)
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