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PHPBB3 [3.1.2] worst forum for SEO URL that I saw in my life

Post by loadingjkr » Thu Jan 15, 2015 9:38 pm

One of the best SEO tools in the world is the SEO URL
and it is the key to great forums in the world made in vbulletin, xenforo for position in google, baidu, bing.


I don't know with what intention took to decide with this type of algorithm, perhaps to a greater speed to process PHP, but we all know that in these times no longer lack for something there is cache, cache .htaccess or cloudflare CDN

phpbb3 SEO URL is bad, mybb has better SEO URL

There should be SEO URL in the Virgin script as alerts (notifications)
a plugin that generates just incompatibility, vulnerability, slowness to the Forum

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Re: PHPBB3 [3.1.2] worst forum for SEO URL that I saw in my life

Post by DavidIQ » Thu Jan 15, 2015 10:16 pm

I don't have anything against SEO but your entire post is based on the URL that you as a user see and that's not at all what SEO is, which is what many users also fail to comprehend when speaking about SEO. The point of so called "pretty" SEO URLs is just for aesthetics and has nothing to do with SEO (they're actually called something closer to human readable URLs because search engines don't care). If you look on Google and search for phpBB.com posts you'll see that practically everything on this forum is indexed, within a short timeframe as well. What is the benefit of these pretty URLs then in our case then? Well...next to none other than making the address bar slightly more aesthetically pleasing.

For a fledgling site/forum then "pretty" URLs can probably help some or a lot, depending on the community, but certainly not with true SEO, which depends more on the content of the forum. You can't expect SEO to work at all for you if there is no content on your forum. phpBB indexes just fine on Google as is. Why? Because SEO isn't about "pretty" URLs. While we might not yet have human readable URLs we do many other things that actually help with SEO. Will we have prettyfied URLs in a future release? Maybe, but it would most definitely require a lot of work and an RFC for it, which doesn't currently exist on Area 51 since it's a known fact that a URL won't help at all with SEO (very little benefit for the amount of work).
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Re: PHPBB3 [3.1.2] worst forum for SEO URL that I saw in my life

Post by Lumpy Burgertushie » Thu Jan 15, 2015 10:19 pm

sorry, but you have no idea what you are talking about.

the "friendly urls" make very little if any difference for SEO. this has been discussed over and over. google says the same thing, most honest SEO people will say the same thing ( unless they are trying to sell you their services ) etc. etc.

no point in taking this any further because you obviously won't listen to any facts about this subject.

so, I hope you get listed at the very top of google for your friendly urls even if google only really cares about content related to the search terms people enter into the google search.

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Post by Jessica » Thu Jan 22, 2015 4:23 pm

I never saw the point or appeal in "friendly urls"......
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Re: PHPBB3 [3.1.2] worst forum for SEO URL that I saw in my life

Post by david63 » Thu Jan 22, 2015 4:26 pm

Isn't "friendly urls" an oxymoron anyway?
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Re: PHPBB3 [3.1.2] worst forum for SEO URL that I saw in my life

Post by HiFiKabin » Thu Jan 22, 2015 4:27 pm

is "I_am_nice_and_fluffy.com" a friendly URL? :lol:

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Post by Lumpy Burgertushie » Thu Jan 22, 2015 4:29 pm

does oxymoron mean a moron made of oxygen?


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Re: PHPBB3 [3.1.2] worst forum for SEO URL that I saw in my life

Post by shawbo » Thu Jan 22, 2015 5:00 pm

Well, he is right and phpBB it´s kind of bad at it. phpBB does other things well. So ruling out phpBB for just that reason alone is just a mistake. But i agree that phpBB needs it, and maybe something to think about going forward. And for those saying it dose not matter, don't know what they are talking about. And if your going in with that mentality your competitors will soon surpass you. Besides it looks good but a little less relevant now with the schema.org structure. But my point is he is right. its something that should be considered.

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Re: PHPBB3 [3.1.2] worst forum for SEO URL that I saw in my life

Post by HiFiKabin » Thu Jan 22, 2015 5:25 pm

Who cares about SEO URL's?

Search engines? Nope

SPAM Bots? I haven't a clue

Geeky* types? You, thats the one.

Just because 'you' can read

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https://www.phpbb.com/community/PHPBB3 [3.1.2] worst forum for SEO URL that I saw in my life
easier than say

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https://www.phpbb.com/community/viewtopic.php?f=64&t=2288906
does not mean than search engines care. They don't, otherwise this site would never be index'd

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Re: PHPBB3 [3.1.2] worst forum for SEO URL that I saw in my life

Post by Mick » Thu Jan 22, 2015 5:58 pm

shawbo wrote:And for those saying it dose not matter, don't know what they are talking about
Have you got anything to back that up?
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Re: PHPBB3 [3.1.2] worst forum for SEO URL that I saw in my life

Post by RMcGirr83 » Thu Jan 22, 2015 8:30 pm

http://googlewebmastercentral.blogspot. ... -urls.html

emphasis mine
Which can Googlebot read better, static or dynamic URLs?
We've come across many webmasters who, like our friend, believed that static or static-looking URLs were an advantage for indexing and ranking their sites. This is based on the presumption that search engines have issues with crawling and analyzing URLs that include session IDs or source trackers. However, as a matter of fact, we at Google have made some progress in both areas. While static URLs might have a slight advantage in terms of clickthrough rates because users can easily read the urls, the decision to use database-driven websites does not imply a significant disadvantage in terms of indexing and ranking. Providing search engines with dynamic URLs should be favored over hiding parameters to make them look static.
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Getting back to your question about the URLs ... I'd recommend *not* changing them, if you'd just change them for SEO reasons. There's a bit more background at http://googlewebmastercentral.blogspot. ... -urls.html about this kind of situation. We'd need to recrawl & reindex your whole website, and afterwards we'd be able to understand it less than before, so in short: there's no advantage to making that change on your website.
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Re: PHPBB3 [3.1.2] worst forum for SEO URL that I saw in my life

Post by Lumpy Burgertushie » Thu Jan 22, 2015 9:26 pm

BINGO! thank you rich!!

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Re: PHPBB3 [3.1.2] worst forum for SEO URL that I saw in my life

Post by thecoalman » Fri Jan 23, 2015 2:31 pm

“Results! Why, man, I have gotten a lot of results! I have found several thousand things that won’t work.”

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Post by thecoalman » Fri Jan 23, 2015 2:52 pm

Nobody sees this as a problem especially where server resources are concerned?

https://www.google.com/search?as_q=%26t ... l&filter=0

SEO is not just about how well your site ranks. The cached dates on them are all within the last 2 months.
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Re: PHPBB3 [3.1.2] worst forum for SEO URL that I saw in my life

Post by DavidIQ » Fri Jan 23, 2015 3:09 pm

I guess your point with this is that the forum parameter is in the URL even though the software doesn't actually do what you just posted (randomize the forum parameter)? Does that affect SEO in any way? FYI there is already a discussion to remove the f parameter from topic URLs for 3.2 since it is no longer needed in 3.1.
thecoalman wrote:Nobody sees this as a problem especially where server resources are concerned?

https://www.google.com/search?as_q=%26t ... l&filter=0

SEO is not just about how well your site ranks.
First time I've ever seen that search parameter. Learn something new every day. I can't see that used very much though. Searching for that actual topic title, the type of search that would be used way more often, yields additional relevant results I think:

https://www.google.com/search?as_q=%26t ... :phpbb.com

The one matching that title is at the very top and related results after it.

We aren't really going to fight against having to add some form of human readable URLs into the core for a future release, but the notion that a site will rank better because the URL looks pretty is a very incorrect one and is, unfortunately, what many rallying for SEO assume would happen by having such a feature available. This is why the term SEO is oftentimes incorrectly used, "carpet-bomber" OP included.
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