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Accelerated Mobile Page for phpBB

Post by horseguards » Sat Jul 23, 2016 5:13 pm

Will phpBB offer a solution for Accelerated Mobile Page?

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Re: Accelerated Mobile Page for phpBB

Post by david63 » Sat Jul 23, 2016 5:50 pm

What is an "Accelerated Mobile Page"?
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Re: Accelerated Mobile Page for phpBB

Post by Lumpy Burgertushie » Sat Jul 23, 2016 6:07 pm

is that a mobile page that runs across your screen really, really fast?


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Re: Accelerated Mobile Page for phpBB

Post by Ibedejo » Sat Jul 23, 2016 7:26 pm

According to AMP
AMP is a way to build web pages for static content that render fast.
"To build web pages for static content" ... something phpBB is not dealing with ;)

What would be the benefit of this in/for a BBS?

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Re: Accelerated Mobile Page for phpBB

Post by Lumpy Burgertushie » Sat Jul 23, 2016 7:55 pm

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<html><body>hello</body></html>
copy and paste that into a text file and name it whatever.html and you have a static webpage. what is an "accelerated web page"?
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Re: Accelerated Mobile Page for phpBB

Post by Ibedejo » Sat Jul 23, 2016 9:02 pm

@Lumpy

Follow the link and see what it does and, most important, how it is done by AMP code in this case - beneficial for web sites that are mainly (if not all ...) static/build on static content.

So the question still remains: what's the use case in phpBB?

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Re: Accelerated Mobile Page for phpBB

Post by intric8 » Tue Jan 03, 2017 8:35 pm

Some of the responses to this thread are overly snarky for a very valid question. Amp, which Google announced it will be driving, will directly impact SEO and how your sites/pages perform in future search results. It isn't a very complicated change (some meta tags and a bit of javascript) which I'd think would be a setting one could enable in their admin dashboard.

Wordpress has this as a checkbox option now. Granted a blog is different than a forum, but how they compete against one another in Search is quite the same. Adding an AMP option would simply keep phpbb up-to-speed with other CMSes.

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Re: Accelerated Mobile Page for phpBB

Post by Volksdevil » Tue Jan 03, 2017 8:42 pm

Agreed...With all of it.

And AMP has been around in google webmaster tools for a while now, but phpBB always seem slow on the uptake of things like this. Only just using fontawesome for example.
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Re: Accelerated Mobile Page for phpBB

Post by Ger » Wed Jan 04, 2017 8:08 am

intric8 wrote:
Tue Jan 03, 2017 8:35 pm
Wordpress has this as a checkbox option now. Granted a blog is different than a forum, but how they compete against one another in Search is quite the same. Adding an AMP option would simply keep phpbb up-to-speed with other CMSes.
Well like you said here yourself: a Blog is different than a forum. And phpBB cannot be considered a CMS.
I've read some documentation about AMP, and as I understand it, it's not meant for dynamic websites with also much content from external sources. For instance: you need to serve everything through HTTPS. Good luck doing that with all kind of images en alike content from all over the internet. You'd need to set up a camo-proxy to route all that through your own server.
Also, what you see on a forum can be quite different from what the next user should see. Think of the basic guest/user/moderator roles.

I think that if you'd put enough effort into "AMP-ing" a forum you could pull it off, but it's not really what AMP is meant for IMO.
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Re: Accelerated Mobile Page for phpBB

Post by koraldon » Wed Jan 04, 2017 9:06 am

If i understand correctly AMP is an alternative to responsive sites.
So if you are responsive, there is no advantage in going to AMP.
At my webmaster account I see no mobile usability issues for my sites, so I assume responsive is fine.

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Re: Accelerated Mobile Page for phpBB

Post by juliokr » Wed Jan 04, 2017 11:52 am

koraldon wrote:
Wed Jan 04, 2017 9:06 am
If i understand correctly AMP is an alternative to responsive sites.
No as I understand AMP has nothing to do with responsive.
AMP removes most of pictures, decoration css to get an ultra light weight page which can be charged faster on low performance connections as it is sometimes the case for mobile devices

AMP works like the "clutter-free fonction" with Safari
https://support.apple.com/kb/PH21467?lo ... cale=en_US

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Re: Accelerated Mobile Page for phpBB

Post by Niko! » Fri Feb 02, 2018 1:27 pm

Hello,

actually the AMP project is a way to serve articles, news, pages that has nothing to do with being responsive, etc..
The point is to provide a page that is quickly loadable and available. Google really appreciate it and put AMP pages in a dedicated space at the top of the results (from mobile)

Here you can see some references:
https://www.ampproject.org/
https://support.google.com/webmasters/a ... 0290?hl=en
https://developers.google.com/amp/

It is something really important that PhpBB team should care about :oops: :P :P
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Re: Accelerated Mobile Page for phpBB

Post by Lumpy Burgertushie » Fri Feb 02, 2018 3:17 pm

my responses above were not "snarky" they were meant to be humorous. sorry about that.
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anyway, if this is something that really only works on static sites then why in the world is WP using it.
if you strip away all the stuff it says it does, you are basically breaking the dynamically created web pages that programs like WP and phpbb create.

don't see much benefit and probably just problems with phpbb etc.


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Re: Accelerated Mobile Page for phpBB

Post by Niko! » Fri Feb 02, 2018 3:47 pm

I do agree.

But maybe as an extra service... Or maybe forums that have only locked topics.
Forumotion (external forum hosting) managed to do something with AMP and “publications”
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Re: Accelerated Mobile Page for phpBB

Post by tojag » Wed Feb 21, 2018 12:44 pm

It's all about very fast loading of pages on mobile devices. The AMP page loads quickly and Google prefers these pages in the search results, allowing you to earn more from your ads. Internet users often give up the opening of a page that is slow because they can not wait to load it. Google says that if the page loads over 3 seconds, then that's the risk.In the case of phpbb I see the possibility of applying this to the main page, where only forums would be listed without information about the last post written, i.e. without dynamic content creation. The site would open quickly but would it have any meaningful content? Doubtful.

PWA (Progressive Web Apps) websites are a much more interesting thing, thanks to which mobile browsers treat it as an application.
https://developers.google.com/web/progressive-web-apps/
For the owners of phpbb sites, PWA would be an interesting option because the forum would be like an independent application. I think it can go in this direction because now Chrome, FF, Opera support it. But this is a completely different topic than AMP.

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