Is phpBB a public good?
I want to understand why donor driven changes aren't going to happen. My guess is that they aren't going to happen because you, and others, don't understand basic economics like I don't understand basic programming. Actually I do understand basic programming. But your inability/reluctance to answer a relatively simple economics question provides evidence that you don't understand basic economics.
For instance, people could pledge money towards the implementations of specific features from the Ideas forum. Anybody can say "Wouldn't X be a neat idea?" but it doesn't make anything happen. On the other hand, "I pledge $20 to make X happen, who's with me?" carries a lot more weight and if enough users are willing to commit then eventually a developer will take it on. I'm ~90% certain there used to be a platform for crowdfunding specific features in open source software but I don't know whether it still exists.
All goes to the specialist who was/is qualified to solve the phpBB problem which apparently is an economic problem.
Who would then determine what "social importance" is? I'm sorry, but this is shortsighted - to say the least.
By my reasoning I can't somehow "divine" just how important social security is to each and every person. Same thing with donuts and laptops. With private goods you can only benefit from them if you spend your money on them. It's a different story with public goods. The amount of money that people voluntarily contribute to Linux will be less than their true perception of its importance. As a result, the quality and quantity of freely available operating systems will be less than people truly want it to be.warmweer wrote: ↑Sun Nov 26, 2017 3:07 pmBaloney!
The social importance of a social security system is beyond doubt but according to your reasoning it's probably worthless.
I'm not necessarily saying that people should be prevented from voting on ideas. I'm just saying that it should also be really easy for people to spend their money on them. This would allow us to simultaneously and directly compare what is most important to voters and what is most important to donors. Now, if it turns out that the priorities of voters are the same as, or better than, the priorities of spenders... well... wow. The implications would be incredible.
The point is for phpBB to accurately reflect people's needs for a forum. My premise is that voting is far less accurate than spending at indicating what people's needs actually are. If my premise is correct, it would mean that phpBB currently does not accurately reflect people's needs for a forum. Donation-driven development would most likely require some significant changes to phpBB. Of course I can't come close to accurately predicting what these changes might be since I can't "divine" what people's needs for a forum truly are. But I accept it as a fact that phpBB should correctly conform to people's actual needs for a forum. As people's needs change, so should phpBB.Ibedejo wrote: ↑Sun Nov 26, 2017 12:05 pmMoney-driven development of extensions may be something that can be considered - but this can be done already.
Money-driven development of the core of phpBB is a totally different thing bearing totally different consequences and implications.
The former is for the benefit and in the interest of those who need a certain feature but without negative impact for those who don't.
The latteser ... you may start reflecting on this.
Every member of society should have the opportunity to help determine the social importance of phpBB and its parts. For me smilies aren't very important, I rarely use them. Maybe I'd be willing to vote for them. Why not? It wouldn't cost me anything to do so. But would I be willing to spend a dollar on them? Not really, because this would mean that I'd have one less dollar that I could spend on spam protection.Ibedejo wrote: ↑Sun Nov 26, 2017 12:05 pmWho would then determine what "social importance" is? I'm sorry, but this is shortsighted - to say the least.
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