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Re: New GDPR (General Data Protection Regulation) and phpBB

Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2018 12:35 pm
by GanstaZ
Even if one uses real name it doesn't point to a specific identity. Fool? It depends on ones fear status/grade. Want to use your real name, go ahead and use it. Don't want, less identity connections and that is all.

Re: New GDPR (General Data Protection Regulation) and phpBB

Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2018 1:02 pm
by noth
what about a site's terms and conditions?

no need to comply? we can ignore? is that your advice?

Re: New GDPR (General Data Protection Regulation) and phpBB

Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2018 3:09 pm
by david63
noth wrote:
Wed Jul 25, 2018 1:02 pm
what about a site's terms and conditions?
In 99.9% of cases it is impossible to enforce

Re: New GDPR (General Data Protection Regulation) and phpBB

Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2018 4:06 pm
by noth
so we have senior members of this site advocating that a website's terms and conditions be ignored

those same members encouraging other members to break site terms and conditions too

seemingly on the basis that if a site's terms and conditions can't be enforced then just pick and choose the ones you like, ignoring any you don't agree with, tell me, do you have a website? and do you have terms and conditions on that site?

Re: New GDPR (General Data Protection Regulation) and phpBB

Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2018 4:13 pm
by Brf
noth wrote:
Wed Jul 25, 2018 4:06 pm
so we have senior members of this site advocating that a website's terms and conditions be ignored
What is a "senior member"? and where are you seeing anyone but you saying TAC should be ignored?

Re: New GDPR (General Data Protection Regulation) and phpBB

Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2018 4:16 pm
by noth
david63 wrote:
Wed May 30, 2018 2:25 pm
Ger wrote:
Wed May 30, 2018 1:39 pm
linked Facebook account, thus using their real life names.
You mean people actually use their "real" names on Facebook :o :shock: :o :shock:
this is quite obviously telling people to break Facebook's T & C's right there
Ger wrote:
Wed May 30, 2018 2:41 pm
Seems so
david63 wrote:
Wed May 30, 2018 2:45 pm
More fool them, I say
I thought David63 was a senior member, ok maybe not
david63 wrote:
Wed Jul 25, 2018 3:09 pm
noth wrote:
Wed Jul 25, 2018 1:02 pm
what about a site's terms and conditions?
In 99.9% of cases it is impossible to enforce
otherwise what is the comment in 99.9% of cases it is impossible to enforce

Re: New GDPR (General Data Protection Regulation) and phpBB

Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2018 4:36 pm
by david63
The comments that I made are "statements" they do not advocate any course of action.

Re: New GDPR (General Data Protection Regulation) and phpBB

Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2018 9:18 pm
by LaxSlash1993
Who merged this? I feel that there's a ton of context missing all of a sudden...

Also, as an update, I have not heard anything further on the RTBF request that I denied. (I gave the guy access to what he wanted after he replied explaining... he just wanted to see if his account had ever logged in from a city/country that wasn't his) Past that, the GDPR fad seems to already be quieting down in my opinion... also, the joint press conference between the US and the EU today is pretty promising that we don't have to worry about this, considering the "zero trade barriers" line and the fact that the GDPR is a huge (data) trade barrier...

Re: New GDPR (General Data Protection Regulation) and phpBB

Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2018 9:57 pm
by Blacktiger63
also, the joint press conference between the US and the EU today is pretty promising that we don't have to worry about this, considering the "zero trade barriers" line and the fact that the GDPR is a huge (data) trade barrier...
You're mixing things up. GPRD is still there and it's mainly about privacy. It has totally nothing to do with trading, so it's not a trade barrier.
If you want to trade personal data, then that's just why the GPDR came to effect, because the EU does not want that.

You can still trade around the world, even with GPDR in effect. It's indeed quieting down, which only means that questions are answered, nobody is making a big fuzz about it anymore. It does -not- mean we can forget about it, that checks will not be done or fine's will not be given.

Re: New GDPR (General Data Protection Regulation) and phpBB

Posted: Thu Jul 26, 2018 3:28 am
by LaxSlash1993
Blacktiger63 wrote:
Wed Jul 25, 2018 9:57 pm
It has totally nothing to do with trading ... If you want to trade personal data, then that's just why the GPDR came to effect, because the EU does not want that.
Exactly, and the EU is working on removing those sorts of trade restrictions.
It's indeed quieting down, which only means that questions are answered, nobody is making a big fuzz about it anymore. It does -not- mean we can forget about it, that checks will not be done or fine's will not be given.
Sure it does. Information agencies have been largely quiet on it as well as of late. There hasn't even been any GDPR related investigations opened/publicized yet by the ICO. We all knewt hat this was gonna happen, the law's too big and too unclear to be enforced.

Re: New GDPR (General Data Protection Regulation) and phpBB

Posted: Thu Jul 26, 2018 6:38 pm
by Dog Cow
noth wrote:
Wed Jul 25, 2018 11:21 am
am I to take it that unless a terms and condition can be "policed" ....... we just ignore it?
If it's unreasonable, sure why not?

Re: New GDPR (General Data Protection Regulation) and phpBB

Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2018 6:08 pm
by Affin
Will there be any extension or will we fix it ourselves?

Re: New GDPR (General Data Protection Regulation) and phpBB

Posted: Sun Sep 23, 2018 9:04 pm
by enter a valid email
:cry: I drive insane with the GDPR...
I read in German many different Case so far so god.
But what does I mean for my Forum?

For example "Affin" delete his account so every Personal Information must be deleted.
That mean also every think who Contain the Username "Affin". Every Quote...
So how does the Software do it?
The Joomla Usergroup work on the problem to geht Joomla 100% Compliant.

Re: New GDPR (General Data Protection Regulation) and phpBB

Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2018 7:55 am
by Ger
enter a valid email wrote:
Sun Sep 23, 2018 9:04 pm
For example "Affin" delete his account so every Personal Information must be deleted.
That mean also every think who Contain the Username "Affin". Every Quote...
That's exactly why I created Quoted Where + Anonymise.

Re: New GDPR (General Data Protection Regulation) and phpBB

Posted: Sat Sep 29, 2018 4:07 pm
by LaxSlash1993
enter a valid email wrote:
Sun Sep 23, 2018 9:04 pm
:cry: I drive insane with the GDPR...
I read in German many different Case so far so god.
But what does I mean for my Forum?

For example "Affin" delete his account so every Personal Information must be deleted.
That mean also every think who Contain the Username "Affin". Every Quote...
So how does the Software do it?
The Joomla Usergroup work on the problem to geht Joomla 100% Compliant.
There are multiple plug-ins that you can find in order to facilitate your compliancy. Simply put, the core phpBB software does not contain any extra features built for the GDPR. To summarize the points brought up in the many pages of this thread:

- Compliancy will always be different for all sites and software users that wish to be compliant, and implementing core functionality could result in unneeded features, or the general assumption that you are compliant by default, even if you may not be.
- Not everyone is subject to the law
- Foreign websites, even when subject, don't have to follow it because the EU can't do a thing about it if they're not physically present within the EU
- It'd ultimately be a waste of time, as the GDPR will likely not last.
- Forums generally do not collect personal information
- US websites and technology companies are actually exempt from the law under the little-known CDA 230, which states that loose regulation is key to online innovation, and this may only be overridden through federal, state, or even local level legislation (not international).

If you yourself are missing features that you wish to see, there are extension request boards on this forum that you would be able to use to request such functionality.

(Also, to add additional complexity, German case law will not always be equal to the case law of other countries within the EU where your other users are from - so there's that, too.)