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Re: Discuss: phpBB 3.3 Proteus Feature Release Published

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The thing with "wow factors" is BC. Backward compatibility.
3.3 intention (as far as I can tell) was to 'get with the times'. Meaning to upgrade / update to all the latest dependencies. Such as PHP, Symfony (and Twig), jQuery, etc. Adding new features and functions, means that it will mostlikely cause issues with previous versions, and that was not the intention for 3.3, making sure almost everything from 3.2 is compatible with 3.3 - and even that is not true, as you've noticed by all the topics about the updated symfony versions. Some 'old' extensions that are mostlikely abandoned are still having compatibility issues with the deprecated syntax.

New (major) features are to be part of 4.0, which will mostlikely break BC, such as routes (yourforum.com/forum, yourforum.com/user), browsing the CDB from your ACP, new style (Chameleon), etc.. It will move away from classes full of (random) functions and using globals, to proper (symfony) objects. Where correct exceptions can be thrown and not a 'hacky' trigger_error(). And services can be injected through a constructor (__construct()) rather than passing them along as function parameters or through globals.

And about the 'live search', that feature was already there, I just did some enhancements to it. I made the 'loading indicator' visible and added keyboard navigation to the results, highlighting the selected username.

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Congrats to all and big thanks to the phpBB Community !
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Nice work people,

I Likethe new logo , the apperance, the new functionality !

I just updated my board !

Thanks

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I got a lot of extensions not working (tapatalk, link menu, posts merging) due to the following error being thrown:

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phpBB encountered an error building the container due to an installed extension. For this reason, all extensions have been temporarily disabled. Please try purging your forum cache. All extensions will automatically be re-enabled once the container error is resolved. If this error continues, please visit phpBB.com for support.

Wyjątek: The file "(...)ext/tapatalk/tapatalk/config/services.yml" does not contain valid YAML: The reserved indicator "@" cannot start a plain scalar; you need to quote the scalar at line 5 (near "- @template").
That's not great. Is there something I can do on my own to fix it before the extensions are updated to work with 3.3?

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kocureq wrote:
Tue Jan 07, 2020 4:57 pm
I got a lot of extensions not working (tapatalk, link menu, posts merging) due to the following error being thrown:

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phpBB encountered an error building the container due to an installed extension. For this reason, all extensions have been temporarily disabled. Please try purging your forum cache. All extensions will automatically be re-enabled once the container error is resolved. If this error continues, please visit phpBB.com for support.

Wyjątek: The file "(...)ext/tapatalk/tapatalk/config/services.yml" does not contain valid YAML: The reserved indicator "@" cannot start a plain scalar; you need to quote the scalar at line 5 (near "- @template").
That's not great. Is there something I can do on my own to fix it before the extensions are updated to work with 3.3?
Probably too late, but I would highly recommend anyone considering upgrading to 3.3.0 should first install the [3.2][RC] Extension .yml check on their board and check the results. It will save lots of headache such as this poster has seen.
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Too bad this wasn't listed in the release notes. A lot of extensions got hit. Good thing in the linked thread there seems to be a solution to fixing the YAML files: viewtopic.php?p=15355941#p15355941

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kocureq wrote:
Tue Jan 07, 2020 5:10 pm
Too bad this wasn't listed in the release notes. A lot of extensions got hit. Good thing in the linked thread there seems to be a solution to fixing the YAML files: viewtopic.php?p=15355941#p15355941
Bear in mind that fixing any YAML files will not guarantee that the extension will work with phpBB 3.3.x Check with the extension author if you are in any doubt.

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Even tapatalk is not working with 3.3. It seems to me such a breaking change should have been communicated better in the release notes / invitation to upgrade. I wasn't expecting my board's extensions to all go down until they're all fixed by their authors.

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kocureq wrote:
Tue Jan 07, 2020 5:39 pm
Even tapatalk is not working with 3.3. It seems to me such a breaking change should have been communicated better in the release notes / invitation to upgrade. I wasn't expecting my board's extensions to all go down until they're all fixed by their authors.
First of all, the probability of certain extensions not working with 3.3 has been discussed on phpBB.com for weeks now. An extension checker was even made (checking whether an extension follows certain coding guidelines, but not confirming that it works on3.3).
Apart from that, most extensions have been validated for 3.2 and not for 3.3 since that wasn't released so blindly upgrading with extensions enabled isn't the best workflow IMHO.

And "even tapatalk"? If there's one extension I could guarantee not being functional with 3.3, it certainly was/is tapatalk.
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kocureq wrote:
Tue Jan 07, 2020 5:39 pm
Even tapatalk is not working with 3.3. It seems to me such a breaking change should have been communicated better in the release notes / invitation to upgrade. I wasn't expecting my board's extensions to all go down until they're all fixed by their authors.
We have been warning extension authors since at least the release of 3.2.0 that they should change there configuration files. We can't help that a few extension authors never fixed them, and are causing issues now :).
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I don't understand anything about programming, so the most experienced can give a word by speaking about the possibilities that this new version opens for the development of new things.
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You should post in the support forums :)
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I guess you did a lot of good work with extensions authors and you cannot force them to provide updates in a timely manner.

However, there's another type of a stakeholder that should be informed and made aware of the 3.3 upgrade consequences - your users, ie. site admins. There is nothing in the announcement that would hint this is a braking change, that my extensions are likely to stop working, that there's a tool I should instal BEFORE making an upgrade etc.

I have fixed most of my problems now (apart from tapatalk, this one doesn't work even though I changed the YAML files), but it was an unpleasant surprise.

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With any major or minor release we suggest to try a test upgrade first, as we can't check with all extensions and styles. Major and minor releases might sometimes break extensions, and that has been since 3.1 to 3.2, and the same with 3.2 to 3.3.
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