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phpBB 3.3.0 breadcrumb seen by Google

Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2020 10:27 am
by pierredu
Hello,

I installed version 3.3.0 on January the 21st and, suddenly, I get about 6.000 warnings in Google search console about the breadcrumb : 'id' field missing (this is a retranslation from the French).

Here is the breadcrumb from a sample page:

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<ul id="nav-breadcrumbs" class="nav-breadcrumbs linklist navlinks" role="menubar">
	<li class="breadcrumbs wrapped" itemscope itemtype="http://schema.org/BreadcrumbList">
		<span class="crumb"  itemtype="http://schema.org/ListItem" itemprop="itemListElement" itemscope><a href="./index.php" itemtype="https://schema.org/Thing" itemscope="" itemprop="item" accesskey="h" data-navbar-reference="index" title="Index du forum"><i class="icon fa-home fa-fw"></i><span itemprop="name">Index du forum</span></a><meta itemprop="position" content="1" /></span>
		<span class="crumb"  itemtype="http://schema.org/ListItem" itemprop="itemListElement" itemscope data-forum-id="64"><a href="./viewforum.php?f=64" itemtype="https://schema.org/Thing" itemscope="" itemprop="item" title="Les insectes"><span itemprop="name">Les insectes</span></a><meta itemprop="position" content="2" /></span>
		<span class="crumb"  itemtype="http://schema.org/ListItem" itemprop="itemListElement" itemscope data-forum-id="86"><a href="./viewforum.php?f=86" itemtype="https://schema.org/Thing" itemscope="" itemprop="item" title="Hémiptères"><span itemprop="name">Hémiptères</span></a><meta itemprop="position" content="3" /></span>
		<span class="crumb"  itemtype="http://schema.org/ListItem" itemprop="itemListElement" itemscope data-forum-id="35"><a href="./viewforum.php?f=35" itemtype="https://schema.org/Thing" itemscope="" itemprop="item" title="Hétéroptères"><span itemprop="name">Hétéroptères</span></a><meta itemprop="position" content="4" /></span>
	</li>
</ul>
In the sidebar displaying the "error", I get the message element without name and following code part is highlighted:
<a href="./viewforum.php?f=64" itemtype="https://schema.org/Thing" itemscope="" itemprop="item" title="Les insectes"><span itemprop="name">Les insectes</span></a>

I think that version 3.3.0 changed its way of coding the breadcrumb and that Google doesn't find it correct.

Does this ring a bell for any of you?
Thanks in advance.

Re: phpBB 3.3.0 breadcrumb seen by Google

Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2020 10:29 am
by 3Di
Fixed with https://github.com/phpbb/phpbb/pull/5836 (for 3.2.10 and 3.3.1)

Re: phpBB 3.3.0 breadcrumb seen by Google

Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2020 10:31 am
by pierredu
I just found this ticket in another topic.
Thanks.

Re: phpBB 3.3.0 breadcrumb seen by Google

Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2020 10:32 am
by 3Di
Anytime :)

Re: phpBB 3.3.0 breadcrumb seen by Google

Posted: Mon Feb 17, 2020 2:47 pm
by php_mike
Hi,

Could someone let me know how to use the github information to fix the site.
I'm getting the same thing from Google. I installed 3.3 last week.

>The following errors were found on your site:
>Missing field "id"
>We recommend that you fix these issues when possible to enable the best experience and coverage in Google Search.

Re: phpBB 3.3.0 breadcrumb seen by Google

Posted: Mon Feb 17, 2020 3:00 pm
by kinerity
It would be best to wait for 3.3.1 to be released.

Re: phpBB 3.3.0 breadcrumb seen by Google

Posted: Mon Feb 17, 2020 3:37 pm
by 3Di
php_mike wrote:
Mon Feb 17, 2020 2:47 pm
Could someone let me know how to use the github information to fix the site.
See viewtopic.php?p=15418881#p15418881

Re: phpBB 3.3.0 breadcrumb seen by Google

Posted: Mon Feb 17, 2020 6:54 pm
by php_mike
kinerity wrote:
Mon Feb 17, 2020 3:00 pm
It would be best to wait for 3.3.1 to be released.
Do you mean it's not that important? Any time Google complains, it's seems important since we don't want not to be indexed.

Re: phpBB 3.3.0 breadcrumb seen by Google

Posted: Mon Feb 17, 2020 6:55 pm
by php_mike
3Di wrote:
Mon Feb 17, 2020 3:37 pm
php_mike wrote:
Mon Feb 17, 2020 2:47 pm
Could someone let me know how to use the github information to fix the site.
See viewtopic.php?p=15418881#p15418881
I made this change, will be automatically be updated/fixed in the next upgrade or do I have to keep track of this change and re-edit when updating?

Re: phpBB 3.3.0 breadcrumb seen by Google

Posted: Mon Feb 17, 2020 7:49 pm
by pierredu
Before the changes, I had 12.000 breadcrumb warnings. After 14 days, I'm now at 6.200, the slope goes downwards.

Re: phpBB 3.3.0 breadcrumb seen by Google

Posted: Mon Feb 17, 2020 8:27 pm
by KYPREO
The Google breadcrumbs is only a warning, not an error. They are giving people time to make changes, until 6 April to be exact, see:

https://developers.google.com/search/do ... breadcrumb

https://webmasters.googleblog.com/2020/ ... y.html?m=1

No penalty or manual action would apply against your site. As noted in the link above, they only rolled out these checks on 21 January 2020 hence everyone experiencing the same thing at the same time. The timing made it look like 3.3.0 was responsible when in fact users of earlier versions of phpbb who did not upgrade started getting related (but different) markup warnings the same day.

Re: phpBB 3.3.0 breadcrumb seen by Google

Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2020 3:53 am
by 3Di
php_mike wrote:
Mon Feb 17, 2020 6:55 pm
....

I made this change, will be automatically be updated/fixed in the next upgrade or do I have to keep track of this change and re-edit when updating?
Yes it will be automatically updated since 3.2.10 and 3.3.1.

Re: phpBB 3.3.0 breadcrumb seen by Google

Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2020 4:46 pm
by php_mike
Thanks.
Would be nice to have a simple Thanks or thumbs up button instead of needing a full comment :).

Re: phpBB 3.3.0 breadcrumb seen by Google

Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2020 10:50 am
by Mick
Fortunately, we don’t have that, a ‘thanks’ post is fine if you feel the need.

Re: phpBB 3.3.0 breadcrumb seen by Google

Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2020 11:11 am
by warmweer
Mick wrote:
Wed Feb 19, 2020 10:50 am
Fortunately, we don’t have that, a ‘thanks’ post is fine if you feel the need.
Thanks, :thumbsup:, Me Likes, +1, :heart: