LOL, exactly,
What a new!
LOL, exactly,
Thank you for that, but an answer to the question would be preferable
Much of the traffic has gone elsewhere where forums used to be the nexus of conversation 10-20+ years ago, now the userbases are becoming more niche per community and there are simply more options not funneling the previous traffic into this forum that will learn phpbb well enough to be able to contribute. There are enough sites using phpbb, that if the web administrators and extension writers out there are willing, may eventually happen upon the github or the issue tracker here.
As you also pointed out, the phpBB style should be a good base to build upon. Is it not that base that will also benefit you as a developer selling commercial styles? How is that not an incentive to improve the phpBB style? An improved base style will also gather phpBB more interest which in return will also increase the size of the target audience for your premium styles.PlanetStyles.net wrote: ↑Wed Apr 27, 2022 1:08 am The problem is that skilled developers are focussed on maintaining their commercial offerings. There is no incentive for volunteer here.
Wonderful! I was trying to get a paid extension for that too. Then i have to wait.
This is a fair question to ask, thank you for the opportunity to share some thoughts here. It's something I've thought about a lot too, and truthfully I don't really know. There's a few different ways I look at this:
I'm sure Tailwind is great and everything but it'd be great if phpBB stuck to using as little frameworks as necessary to make the default style. As Christian said above, pro silver is rife with all kinds of bad CSS hacks and it would be nice if whatever this new style was, had as little design to it as possible so people can make custom styles that completely change the look of the software through custom styles (free or paid).AlfredoRamos wrote: ↑Tue May 17, 2022 12:55 am I would consider Tailwind.
I even made a test style for that, however the back-end really needs to separate the HTML.
Basically this, though I'm not a fan of having to learn new syntax sugar relative to whatever new stuff is added like that. I'm more prone to agree with danieltj that it should use as little frameworks as possible to get the job done, though I'm not an explicit style developer myself. I just revamp themes I find here and use them as a base for clients to look like whatever they need, usually to match their main site, I've built a couple almost from scratch but I would not say I have the most expert opinion on style craft. With that said, I propose that even further, you could have a tailwind/bootstrap/whatever base style built off of the actual base style, that way it can go in whatever direction gets the most attention (given that docs/element examples are available for them). Unsure if this is optimal or would complicate things.PlanetStyles.net wrote: ↑Tue May 17, 2022 11:12 pm If developers can reference quality documentation and hand-pick elements off the shelf, I think we're in a good place
If that was meant for my previous comment, I would say the "cluttering" (I don't see it that way), in my opinion would be a good trade-off.
.panel
or .card
just by using the @apply
directive.Well, that's precisely I would consider Tailwind, since it's minimal at production since it removes unused classes and directives, and combined with tools like
cssnano
you also minify the stylesheets when building the theme.dark:
helper classes.grid
or flex
classes. You could even do it without changing the HTML markup as you would do with Bootstrap, for example.I agree that more, better documentation is needed. That’s one department that phoBB severely lacks. Even the extension documentation is extremely barebones although some people would like to disagree.PlanetStyles.net wrote: ↑Tue May 17, 2022 11:12 pm […]
If developers can reference quality documentation and hand-pick elements off the shelf, I think we're in a good place