Extra Variable in Topics URL = Poor SEO?

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Extra Variable in Topics URL = Poor SEO?

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Just curious, but I'm wondering what the advantage of having the forum ID in a topics' URL is (i.e., viewtopic.php?f=64&t=527269)?

Were Google to index it or others link to it, wouldn't the links break if the topic was moved into another forum, changing the URL to, say, viewtopic.php?f=23&t=527269?
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romans1423 wrote: Were Google to index it or others link to it, wouldn't the links break if the topic was moved into another forum, changing the URL to, say, viewtopic.php?f=23&t=527269?


Try it. :P

Don't quote me on this, but I believe this has its roots in requiring just one less query to be run on the database on every load.

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No moving it does not break the link :) just tested it, it still points to the post.
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Neat, thanks for checking. Just trying to keep up on phpBB & how it responds to search bots so I can keep answering such questions in the forums here.
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I have heard that it has something to do with the new function that allows global announcements.. When you look at one of them, you still needs to be able to determine which forum you are in ;-)
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Ah, I hadn't thought of that! Cheers!
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I don't know why Olympus dev did not focused on clean url's, everybody knows Google love it.
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By the same token, it could be argued that what message boards contain shouldn't be indexed on google, because it’s mostly meaningless chatter (generalization) instead of useful content, with a few exceptions.

What do you mean by "clean url"? :?
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Google doesn't give two figs about the url and processes them anyway regardless.

I mean there are countless 2.0 boards google has gone and indexed with a SID in the URL perfectly fine. Of course in phpBB3 that mess has been cleaned up and google is no-longer presented with an SID when it visits a forum.
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smithy_dll wrote: Of course in phpBB3 that mess has been cleaned up and google is no-longer presented with an SID when it visits a forum.
Exactly!
So in response to the poster... They are clean URLs. ;)
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Perhaps what is being alluded to are URLs that are rich with keywords -- the URL is valuable keyword space, anyway. A domain name contains some, but each page's unique URI could also contain them, as is quite often done on blogs.

However, as a search engine's ability to process the content on a page increases, the need to rely on "meta" information (URL, META tags, etc.) decreases.
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I've probably missed it, but has anybody—including the blogs—come up with a way to generate "clean" or "keyword-rich" URIs that doesn't depend on Apache? WordPress's link options appear to be limited to Apache support, unless I've missed it there, too. If true, that adds a difficulty to comparisons of an "old school" project like phpBB, where platform independence/inclusiveness is a priority, to "new school" projects like WordPress, where platform ubiquity is the draw.
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Unless I am mistaken, there are multiple possible ways to use clean(er) URLs in MediaWiki; I seem to recall a couple which did not require Apache, though I might be mistaken. The MediaWiki documentation is rather lacking in organization and structure at quite a few points, I've found. :(
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romans1423 wrote: Unless I am mistaken, there are multiple possible ways to use clean(er) URLs in MediaWiki; I seem to recall a couple which did not require Apache, though I might be mistaken. The MediaWiki documentation is rather lacking in organization and structure at quite a few points, I've found. :(


I think what people are saying is the bot's come in and spider it differently than you see it, part of which is cleaning up the URLs. I remember reading this on the area51 site in relation to the GoogleBot you'll see logged in sometimes. :D
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SamG wrote: I've probably missed it, but has anybody—including the blogs—come up with a way to generate "clean" or "keyword-rich" URIs that doesn't depend on Apache?

There is a way to tag stuff on after the filename (e.g. /index.php/blah/blah/blah) which is kinda server independent. IMHO those urls look worse than the query string urls.

Lighttpd supports rules similar to Apache for making clean urls.
IIS supports absolutely nothing for making urls prettier.
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