Extra Variable in Topics URL = Poor SEO?

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Re: Extra Variable in Topics URL = Poor SEO?

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Yes, you're right... I sat down with some paper and pounded this out... for anyone who gives a hoot.

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Re: Extra Variable in Topics URL = Poor SEO?

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Unfortunately PHPBB 3.0 is the worst designed, poorest example of a CMS for search engine friendly applications. It is however a good program, and I hope in time, changes will be made to the core.
Okay, I think we need to make something very clear here...
phpBB3 is NOT a CMS!!! It is a Bulletin Board Software, designed for and used as such and nothing more. -- You can expand the functionality if you want, but phpBB3 is designed as a Forum Software and not a CMS. The main design was not built for Search Engines, but users... people. It is built for ease of use and functionality. Sure it could be better designed for Search Engines, but thats not the main importance of the system.
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Re: Extra Variable in Topics URL = Poor SEO?

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Depends on how one defines "CMS." ;) There's plenty of of content available on message boards, and phpBB provides a great backend management system to deal with it.

(Okay, I know what you mean; I just couldn't not say the above. :lol: )
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Yes I agree with Roman.

Content (Sql Data) + Management (PHPBB) + System (A process to combine the two)

Call it a chicken for all you want. Personally I like to think of it as the "everlasting-gobstopper" for Bots.
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Re: Extra Variable in Topics URL = Poor SEO?

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ascensions wrote:

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    if (($total_posts2) > ($config['posts_per_page'])) {

    $tp=($total_posts2 / $config['posts_per_page']);

    $beancount=(floor($tp) * $config['posts_per_page']);
    }
Coding Standards please:

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if ($total_posts2 > $config['posts_per_page'])
{
    $total_posts = ($total_posts2 / $config['posts_per_page']);
    
    $bean_count = floor($total_posts) * $config['posts_per_page'];
} 
:P

Regarding it being a CMS: Not at all. (Comparison of Forums with other Web Applications).
Content Management Systems are not discussion boards. :P
They serve a completely different purpose. Joomla! Mambo, Drupal, are all examples of a Content Management System. phpBB should never be confused, labeled or grouped with such systems. ;)
Thinking of it as such doesn’t change the fact that it isn't a CMS.
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Re: Extra Variable in Topics URL = Poor SEO?

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Okay... how about errrr....

CDEEDS

Chronological Data entry and display System

I just can't say "forum"... I keep thinking of "A funny thing happened on the way to the forum", and Marcus Lycus.

Okay... You win for now. :(
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Re: Extra Variable in Topics URL = Poor SEO?

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ascensions wrote:Okay... how about errrr....

CDEEDS

Chronological Data entry and display System

I just can't say "forum"... I keep thinking of "A funny thing happened on the way to the forum", and Marcus Lycus.

Okay... You win for now. :(
Good, because it isn't a forum. It is a board. Or forums if you so desire. But forum it is not.

I for one am getting tired of hearing "SEO this, SEO that." Besides that a lot of the claims are just ridiculous (not all of them, but a lot of them are ...), these search engine companies aren't stupid. Once they see some way to trick the system, they change the bot to behave appropriately. The bots may not be intelligent, but the people behind them are.
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It should also be noted that phpBB3 does very well with SEO out of the box, how do I know this?
Simple, do a google search for Poor SEO
Which brings up this topic as the second result.

Or how about, Awful for SEO or even Awful SEO both bring the other SEO topic on the first page.
I would say phpBB3 must be doing something right to have such high-ranking results for a topic in Google. Don’t you think?
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Highway of Life wrote:It should also be noted that phpBB3 does very well with SEO out of the box, how do I know this?
Simple, do a google search for Poor SEO
Which brings up this topic as the second result.
Actually I just checked and it's #1. Ironic isn't it? :lol: :lol:
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Yeah, looks like my post kicked it up a notch. ;)
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Highway of Life wrote: Or how about, Awful for SEO or even Awful SEO both bring the other SEO topic on the first page.
I would say phpBB3 must be doing something right to have such high-ranking results for a topic in Google. Don’t you think?
The fact it's on phpbb.com has more to with that than anything. If you have a high ranking site like this one you can get ranked for almost anything you want. Don't believe try putting a competitive phrase on the front page. Nobody wants to get ranked for that term anyway. :lol:
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http://www.phpbb.com/community/viewtopi ... 6&t=587040

PR6 (out of 10) isn't really that high.
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So within the same topic we talk about how terrible phpBB is for SEO, yet we also recognize how well ranked phpBB is.

So either phpBB is great for SEO, or SEO simply doesn't matter.

As always it comes down to the quality of the content & the quality of inbound links. No amount of SEO can make up for a lack of either of those, and having both of those sufficiently means you'll have to spend little if any time coaxing Google into liking your site.
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A_Jelly_Doughnut wrote:http://www.phpbb.com/community/viewtopi ... 6&t=587040

PR6 (out of 10) isn't really that high.
Given that Google is just throwing a fit like a whiny little baby, and lowered phpBB.com's PR, I'm inclined to still use the original 8 out of 10.
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thecoalman wrote:The fact it's on phpbb.com has more to with that than anything. If you have a high ranking site like this one you can get ranked for almost anything you want. Don't believe try putting a competitive phrase on the front page. Nobody wants to get ranked for that term anyway. :lol:
Sure being a high-ranking site is beneficial, but phpBB.com doesn't specialize in SEO, its rather rare to see topics about SEO compared to many HUGE boards and sites out there that are geared specifically toward SEO and who's content is based on the subject. -- Yet, how does phpBB rate so well for such terms for a single topic?
We may not know the exact reason why, but we can deduce that the dynamic variables don’t seem to be a hinderance at all in these results, but according to some people that phpBB3 Topic URLs being so poor for SEO, we shouldn't see these kinds of results, but we do.
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