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Re: Autoban and Dedect Spammer

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sry for the Double Post there are different Spam Types going on:
1) Like I did the put a Link in the Signature. It seem there is no "no follow" (as default?!):

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<a href="https://publictransportforum.at" class="postlink">https://publictransportforum.at</a>
2) The post 10 Random Answers to any Post who often got old so the hope the post not get discovered soon.
After that the start with Spamming.

3) In my Case some People use the feature to put an Link the Personal Profile to put Ads there.
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A German Talk about Fake Facebook Likes. So the are just Links how about them to solve Question for Bots?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nmXACRrzLMA

So I am still aware of them. There are a lot of Forum who someone/ something register. Ask a Question for example:
"Maria Müller": Hey how to push my Homepage to get more Views?
5 Minutes Later:
"Hermann Steiner": Dont worry just Klick on ***********.com to push your Site to get the Number 1#!

:roll: ... Well 2 Accounts with just one Post there Spam. So one of the Rule could be:
If Original Poster have an Post Count of <10 Post and when the Replay is <X(Min, Hour, Day) and the Poster have <10 Posts the hole Post (both) get Invisible and is marked as Potential Spam.

So a rule could look like this. I guess there is not that much CPU Power needed for such a simple task.
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LOL!
I found here an Post (reported as spam!) who that happen what I sayed before!
Someone posted some legitimated think and the Post was Edited MONTH after someone was posted a replay and it was (until I found them) unrecognised!
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enter a valid email wrote: Fri Jan 10, 2020 11:40 am he Post was Edited MONTH after someone was posted a replay
That is down to your board settings/permissions. Set them correctly and that will not happen.
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Again it happen here and nobody discovered it here... Well I to People edit some Posts back then.
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enter a valid email wrote: Fri Jan 10, 2020 2:11 pm Again it happen here and nobody discovered it here... Well I to People edit some Posts back then.
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Well I if the Software, Engine,.. Support it I would make my own Rules to hide a Post when some suspicious activity happen. Like someone post Chinese, Arabic, Thai, Vietnamese, Russian... letters...
There are 1000x ways to detect someone who is try to spam. I would say sky is the Limit!
It only depend on the Software, Script, Framework,... I mention before to hack some good Rules in to catch the most Bots.

Sure if a User from the Country above hack some of there Letters in the Post will be "hidden" Until someone Unlock ist.
My current reality is I will overview the first 10 Post of each new User.
Do you think this is more Admin Friendly?

When I make my Homepage I will have an Tread for each Railway Station in Austria. When I parse the "Open Data" right we have more than 1000 Railway Station here in our small Country. So be prepared for a lot of Treads..
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enter a valid email wrote: Fri Jan 10, 2020 2:48 pm My current reality is I will overview the first 10 Post of each new User.
Do you think this is more Admin Friendly?
Most definitely not - that will drive new members away. You can usually tell within the first one or two posts if somebody is a spammer
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Not realy. Sorry I dont know how it is in other Language Areas here some Post from new User are:
"Good Information Thanks"
"It really helps me!"
"Oh I didn't noticed it!"

So are that Spam Accounts wo run wild in the Future?
Are that "sleeping Accounts"?
Does the "just" register to scrap Data?
How should I noticed it?

I know some Forum owner who gave up and delete the Forum and other who run insane and restrict everything who make no fun any more to be there.
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If that are there first post, yes the are spammers.

But you can al block them with a good Q&A captcha or the sortable captcha.
Don't understand why you don't use these very simple reliable tools instead of building a very complicated tool which is not very reliable.
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I suggest you stop worrying so much about things that have not and probably will not happen.

you have been working on this board for close to 4 years now and there are still no posts and only 4 members.

get busy and post content, figure out how to get members etc.

what is the point of all of this if you never get it started?


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Well currently I wait for Joomla 4.0 to start with the Homepage.
Sadly there are 1000 Problems with who I dont get a usefull replay.
For example I have +1000 Railway Station Information from 2018 I will use them but I want have all Information in one File for a Quick edit. I dont care what Format if Json, XML, yes even a CSV i dont care.
I know it theoretically work but not in Practise...
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For example I have +1000 Railway Station Information from 2018
In what format the are now?
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Json and no I cant use then "out of the Box" because some Inforamtion are Outdated and need to be removed.
The same for Railway Station who are closed down. There are some missing from the "Private"/ Local Railway Company's.

One of my main Problem is I have a Ton of Open Data who need to be "processed" and cleaned and Equalised before I can use them. I also dont know a Script Language.
At Home I have to change an old Room in the Basement get my new Home "Office" and I want start make Short Clips and Pictures for the Homepage. Sadly a TON of Work who I am basicly alone with.
I dont know from how many German Speaking Railway Forum I got banned for saying the truth what Hardcore (and maybe Former) State Owned Railway Fanatics dont want to hear.
On the other Side more and more Spam Sites Grow like Mushrooms out of the Earth who are Build around the Affiliate Links from the German Railway (DB = Deutsche Bahn) and the People Claim that everyone should buy Tickets only from there...
My Health is not going better so... I wantet that my Project is finish 10 Years ago but as a One Man show what should I do...
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