[DEV] Prevent theft Template

easygo · Post by **easygo** » Tue Jul 29, 2008 7:57 pm

^[GS]^ wrote:Yes, is possible sorry, but a make a program for this xD
http://www.phpbb.com/community/viewtopi ... 4&t=991435

Nice try, anyway.

Jim_UK · Post by **Jim_UK** » Tue Jul 29, 2008 8:01 pm

tupeu wrote:
joebart72 wrote:I can give you an example of a stolen style: phpbb.com !

What does this mean?

Are you saying that this style has been stolen or that it is a stolen style?

Jim

tupeu · Post by **tupeu** » Tue Jul 29, 2008 8:08 pm

This site`s style (phpbb.com) was stolen last year by some asiatic group and was available for download on a private asian forum ! It was then took from phpBB 3.0.0 RC5 (if i remember well)

I found it then with google.com and downloaded so... I have it (updated and tested with phpBB v3.0.0) !

Since then i never found it available for download again !

(i can setup a demo if you want)

updown · Post by **updown** » Tue Jul 29, 2008 8:29 pm

Jim_UK wrote:As stated already this is not a modification as such but just common use of .htaccess files to protect content.

Hi Jim, I have to disagree: This is a modification of a part of the phpBB-system, which enhances the security of template-files and copyright protection for own changes.

If this is no "mod" because it's simple, then you also have to declare some of the already validated mods as "Not-Mods" too, where just a "common" link in a template-file was added or moved in the code. A modification of the phpbb-system, that enhances the security of the phpbb-system, is either a "modification of files" or a "modification" for additional protection.

So, if it's "just" an additional protection, and phpBB.com don't want other users to grab other users' template files, so why isn't that already included in the standard-package like the other .htaccess-files in root or cache?

joebart72 · Post by **joebart72** » Tue Jul 29, 2008 8:32 pm

^[GS]^ wrote:Yes, is possible sorry, but a make a program for this xD
http://www.phpbb.com/community/viewtopi ... 4&t=991435

The warning is real!

Well, I've learnt something today ! Thanks

3Di · Post by **3Di** » Tue Jul 29, 2008 8:43 pm

updown wrote:
Jim_UK wrote:As stated already this is not a modification as such but just common use of .htaccess files to protect content.
Hi Jim, I have to disagree: This is a modification of a part of the phpBB-system, which enhances the security of template-files and copyright protection for own changes.

If this is no "mod" because it's simple, then you also have to declare some of the already validated mods as "Not-Mods" too, where just a "common" link in a template-file was added or moved in the code. A modification of the phpbb-system, that enhances the security of the phpbb-system, is either a "modification of files" or a "modification" for additional protection.

So, if it's "just" an additional protection, and phpBB.com don't want other users to grab other users' template files, so why isn't that already included in the standard-package like the other .htaccess-files in root or cache?

It is more a Knowledge Base Article than a MODification, indeed.

updown · Post by **updown** » Tue Jul 29, 2008 9:03 pm

Hey, we could start a poll about this...

Name it as you want: This code-snippet is important!

easygo · Post by **easygo** » Tue Jul 29, 2008 9:23 pm

updown wrote:Hey, we could start a poll about this...

Yeah, why not?

I think it's not a mod because it modifies nothing as to the
phpBB specifications themselves. Meaning that you can apply such
preventive measures with any HTML environment, using phpBB
or not! On top of that, it sounds quite familiar to me.

So maybe a lack of innovation but useful too.

tupeu · Post by **tupeu** » Tue Jul 29, 2008 9:49 pm

well, a site that uses the phpbb.com template (only changed the header image) is

http://www.guv2.com/prosilver

updown · Post by **updown** » Tue Jul 29, 2008 9:51 pm

easygo wrote: I think it's not a mod because it modifies nothing as to the
phpBB specifications themselves. [...] On top of that, it sounds quite familiar to me.

you can also apply these kind of arguments to this validated mod, where just a special (!) template has been changed for adding a button like in another template:
http://www.phpbb.com/community/viewtopi ... &t=1064615

easygo wrote:Meaning that you can apply such preventive measures with any HTML environment, using phpBB or not!

Yes of course, but here it makes a special sense that effects the security of the phpBB-system!

easygo wrote:
updown wrote:Hey, we could start a poll about this...
Yeah, why not?

Better starting a poll about what to do with this code-snippet, instead of voting how we would call it - and asking the crew to officially implement this as a security precaution, for example.

By the way, instead of juggling with opinions, is there an official notice what a "Mod" is defined as exactly anywhere?

3Di · Post by **3Di** » Tue Jul 29, 2008 10:27 pm

updown wrote:By the way, instead of juggling with opinions, is there an official notice what a "Mod" is defined as exactly anywhere?

A MOD is a MODification to the core code of phpBB.

A .htaccess file isn't.

That's it IMO.

updown · Post by **updown** » Tue Jul 29, 2008 10:31 pm

3Di wrote:A MOD is a MODification to the core code of phpBB.

A .htaccess file isn't.

That's it IMO.

A MOD is a MODification to the system of phpBB.

A .htaccess file within this system is!

That's it IMO.

3Di · Post by **3Di** » Tue Jul 29, 2008 10:37 pm

Bah.!

^[GS]^ · Post by **^[GS]^** » Tue Jul 29, 2008 11:05 pm

and that is my discharge has been eliminated, however, the threat is real, exist, and that is why, I was thinking about how to protect programs like mine templates others ^^
I am not the villain of the movie, I like to experiment with problems to create a solution ^^

Gleasonator · Post by **Gleasonator** » Tue Jul 29, 2008 11:22 pm

updown wrote:
3Di wrote:A MOD is a MODification to the core code of phpBB.

A .htaccess file isn't.

That's it IMO.
A MOD is a MODification to the system of phpBB.

A .htaccess file within this system is!

That's it IMO.

I agree. By placing a .htaccess file into a fresh copy of phpBB, it becomes no longer a fresh copy of phpBB. And if it's not a fresh copy of phpBB, yet still a copy of phpBB, it must be a modified copy of phpBB.

Therefore, this is a mod.

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